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I purchased a rental property in 2019. Nowhere in this software do I see any calculation of the depreciation and it being applied to my taxes. Why is that?

 
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ColeenD3
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I purchased a rental property in 2019. Nowhere in this software do I see any calculation of the depreciation and it being applied to my taxes. Why is that?

Did you go through the entire rental section, including the depreciation section? Did you answer all the questions about assets to depreciate?

 

If you made $150,000 or more, you are not eligible for the special allowance.

 

Maximum special allowance.   The maximum special allowance is:

  • $25,000 for single individuals and married individuals filing a joint return for the tax year,
  • $12,500 for married individuals who file separate returns for the tax year and lived apart from their spouses at all times during the tax year, and
  • $25,000 for a qualifying estate reduced by the special allowance for which the surviving spouse qualified.

  If your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) is $100,000 or less ($50,000 or less if married filing separately), you can deduct your loss up to the amount specified above. If your MAGI is more than $100,000 (more than $50,000 if married filing separately), your special allowance is limited to 50% of the difference between $150,000 ($75,000 if married filing separately) and your MAGI.

  Generally, if your MAGI is $150,000 or more ($75,000 or more if you are married filing separately), there is no special allowance.

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I purchased a rental property in 2019. Nowhere in this software do I see any calculation of the depreciation and it being applied to my taxes. Why is that?

If you filled out one on paper then compare it against the one the program prepared to see what is different ... post back which lines on what forms are not correct ...

 

To view your entire return using the online editions (including the state) before you file, you will need to pay for your online account.

 

To pay the TurboTax online account fees by credit card, without completing the 2019 return at this time, click on Tax Tools >>> Tools  and then Print Center.  Then click on Print, save or preview this year's return.  On the next page, to pay by credit card, click Continue.  On the next screen it will ask if you want Audit Defense, if you do not want this option just click on the Continue button.  The next screen will ask for all your credit card information so you can pay for the account.

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ColeenD3
Expert Alumni

I purchased a rental property in 2019. Nowhere in this software do I see any calculation of the depreciation and it being applied to my taxes. Why is that?

Did you go through the entire rental section, including the depreciation section? Did you answer all the questions about assets to depreciate?

 

If you made $150,000 or more, you are not eligible for the special allowance.

 

Maximum special allowance.   The maximum special allowance is:

  • $25,000 for single individuals and married individuals filing a joint return for the tax year,
  • $12,500 for married individuals who file separate returns for the tax year and lived apart from their spouses at all times during the tax year, and
  • $25,000 for a qualifying estate reduced by the special allowance for which the surviving spouse qualified.

  If your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) is $100,000 or less ($50,000 or less if married filing separately), you can deduct your loss up to the amount specified above. If your MAGI is more than $100,000 (more than $50,000 if married filing separately), your special allowance is limited to 50% of the difference between $150,000 ($75,000 if married filing separately) and your MAGI.

  Generally, if your MAGI is $150,000 or more ($75,000 or more if you are married filing separately), there is no special allowance.

I purchased a rental property in 2019. Nowhere in this software do I see any calculation of the depreciation and it being applied to my taxes. Why is that?

Tax return I prepared allows me the deduction for rental loss.  Is there an error in the software?

I purchased a rental property in 2019. Nowhere in this software do I see any calculation of the depreciation and it being applied to my taxes. Why is that?

If you filled out one on paper then compare it against the one the program prepared to see what is different ... post back which lines on what forms are not correct ...

 

To view your entire return using the online editions (including the state) before you file, you will need to pay for your online account.

 

To pay the TurboTax online account fees by credit card, without completing the 2019 return at this time, click on Tax Tools >>> Tools  and then Print Center.  Then click on Print, save or preview this year's return.  On the next page, to pay by credit card, click Continue.  On the next screen it will ask if you want Audit Defense, if you do not want this option just click on the Continue button.  The next screen will ask for all your credit card information so you can pay for the account.

Carl
Level 15

I purchased a rental property in 2019. Nowhere in this software do I see any calculation of the depreciation and it being applied to my taxes. Why is that?

I have three rental properties of my own and have been using TurboTax for over 10 years now. It figures the depreciation for me *automatically* every single year, including 2019. So there is absolutely positively nothing wrong with the software.

If you work through the program the way it is designed and intended to be used, it is practically impossible to miss anything. But you have to "read" the information on each and every screen that is presented to you. *Expecially* the small print.

Depending on *YOUR* specific and explicit situation, the program will automatically ask you *everything* needed to enter and figure that 1st year depreciation in the Assets/Deprecation section. Otherwise, the small print on one of the screens will tell you directly that *you* have to work through the assets/depreication section of the SCH E part of the program and enter the data. But even then, the program will *automatically* figure that depreciation for you, based on the information *you* enter and the selections *you* make. If you enter incorrect data or make incorrect selections, then the program has no possible way of knowing that, and the end result *will* be incorrect.

Now there are many aspects of the program that, in my personal option, do not provide the necessary clarity required for you to enter the correct information or make the correct selections. Therefore, I am providing you that clarity below. But you "MUST" work through the program the way it is designed and intended to be used.

Rental Property Dates & Numbers That Matter.

Date of Conversion - If this was your primary residence or 2nd home before, then this date is the day AFTER you moved out.
In Service Date - This is the date a renter "could" have moved in. Usually, this date is the day you put the FOR RENT sign in the front yard.
Number of days Rented - the day count for this starts from the first day a renter "could" have moved in. That should be your "in service" date if you were asked for that. Vacant periods between renters count also PROVIDED you did not live in the house for one single day during said period of vacancy.
Days of Personal Use - This number will be a big fat ZERO. Read the screen. It's asking for the number of days you lived in the property AFTER you converted it to a rental. I seriously doubt (though it is possible) that you lived in the house (or space, if renting a part of your home) as your primary residence or 2nd home, after you converted it to a rental.
Business Use Percentage. 100%. I'll put that in words so there's no doubt I didn't make a typo here. One Hundred Percent. After you converted this property or space to rental use, it was one hundred percent business use. What you used it for prior to the date of conversion doesn't count.

RENTAL PROPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED

Property Improvement.

Property improvements are expenses you incur that add value to the property. Expenses for this are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.

To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria must be met:

1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.

2) The improvement must add "real" value to the property. In other words, when  the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.

Cleaning & Maintenance

Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and it's assets in the useable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Repair

Those expenses incurred to return the property or it's assets to the same useable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Repair costs incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.

However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a  2 bedroom house into a 3 bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.

 

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