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gdzakk58
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Classic Car sold

I sold an inherited classic car in 2022 at auction for $14,000. At the time of inheritance, an informal appraisal was done estimating the value at $20,000. We have no documentation to support this estimated value. Do we consider this a capital loss of $6,000 or as a capital gain of $14,000, since there is no evidence to support the original value?

 

 

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Classic Car sold

you can deduct loss on inherited items, but you can't deduct loss on personal items (i.e. that you paid for).

 

inherited items are always Long Term, regardless of your holding period.

 

@gdzakk58 

Classic Car sold

an appraisal for tax purposes has to be signed by a qualified professional appraiser.

It's very unlikely you would be audited and asked to show appraisal.

To avoid "headache", report basis of $14k.

your expenses and commission or fees are deductible.

 

@gdzakk58 

Classic Car sold

To avoid "headache", report basis of $14k.

your expenses and commission or fees are deductible.

Classic Car sold

First, you can't deduct a loss on personal property.  Can you prove (if audited) that you were holding this purely as an investment?  (There may not be one single fact that proves it one way or another, but if you sold the car pretty soon after the death of the prior owner, that would support that you were treating it as an investment even if the prior owner was treating it as personal property.  The longer you owned and drove it, the less likely you could prove you were considering it an investment.)

 

Then second, can you prove the fair market value on the date of death?  An appraisal is usually considered reliable if it is in writing and signed, and if the appraiser is qualified to appraise that type of item.  (The definition of proper qualifications may vary from field to field.).  Also, was this an eyeball appraisal or did the appraiser do the proper research into recent sales of comparable items and so on.  What the appraiser actually say, and what are they willing to put into writing?  Will they say it was informal based on their general knowledge, or will they say they carefully reviewed the condition of the car and recent comparable sales?

 

It would not be unusual for values to drop in the current economic conditions, the appraised value might have been reasonable 2 years ago and the current price reasonable today, you have to prove it. 

 

Just remember that you can put anything on your tax return that you believe, but if audited, you have to convince the auditor.  The law says the entire sales price is assumed to be taxable income unless you can prove your basis--you have to prove you are right, the IRS does not have to prove you are wrong.   I don't think you have to report zero basis even if the appraisal is not adequate to support $20K, because clearly the car had some value.  But that's just my informal opinion.  

 

 

jtax
Level 10

Classic Car sold

@fanfare can you cite authority for the proposition that "an appraisal for tax purposes has to be signed by a qualified professional appraiser" in the I.R.C. 1014 context? (Inherited DOD FMV for basis).

 

I was under the impression that "qualified appraisal" is a defined term in I.R.C. 170(f)(11)(E) and is certainly required for charitable deductions > $5k per 170(f)(11)(C), but not required elsewhere in the code.

 

See e.g. https://www.dsda.com/News-Publications/Press-Room/56275/Qualified-Property-Appraisers-for-Estate-Tax...

which says "Although not mandatory, it is recommended that appraisals obtained for establishing values of estate assets meet the IRS requirements for a qualified appraisal."

 

I can find practitioners recommending qualified appraisals for other tax matters.  Obviously the burden is on the taxpayer to prove any number on a tax return and a qualified appraisal might be very helpful in meeting that burden, but without authority I don't think it is a requirement outside of charitable deduction domain. 

While we're at it, I seem to recall (but can't find quickly find authority for it) that professionals must have "substantial authority" for a tax return position but that taxpayers must only have a "reasonable position" to avoid understatement penalties, where substantial authority is higher burden. Is that right?

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