I have been consumed by a family crisis and have let many things slip, including taxes, and I am now trying to help my son file his 2022 tax return.
Here are some facts that may be relevant...
Below are my questions. I am sure there are other considerations of which I am not even aware... Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you in advanced for any assistance offered.
Sincerely,
The Blind Eagle
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Q. Since 100% of his 529 distributions were used to pay for 529 QEE, can he not report his 1099-Q?
A. Simple answer: Yes. When100% of his 529 distributions are covered by QEE, you do not have to report a 1099-Q. But, based on the numbers you've provided, it's not certain that it's true that 100% is covered.
Q. Is there any reason why he would want to report his 1099-Q?
A. Yes to allocate some of the QEE to the tuition credit and/or tax free scholarship.
Q, When entering the second 1098-T , can he reduce the amount he reports in Box 1 on TurboTax by $4,000 and can that $4,000 be used for the tuition credit?
A. Yes. But based on your numbers, you don't have enough QEE to get all three: 1. The AOTC tuition credit, 2.the 529 distribution being tax free and 3. The scholarship being tax free.
We need to allocate the QEE for maximum tax benefits. Provide the following info for more specific help (I know you've already provided most of this, but it's helpful to have it in a list format):
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Qualified Tuition Plans (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions
General Discussion
It’s complicated.
For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.
You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.
Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $2800
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable
40% x 2800= $1120
There is $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)
**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip! When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings.
I had no idea how little I knew!
I need to get ready for work and will not have a chance to reply with the requested detail.
I also want to take a look at my wife's Summary of Included Expenses for each 529 disbursement request whether paid to my son or one of the colleges.
Thanks for help and I will be back later tonight.
The Blind Eagle
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