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What is best way for college kiddo to lower tax amount? upcoming freshman has 20K in scholarships in excess of tuition and fees. Should she start an IRA with her cash?

she is a dependent, but has a large amount of cash coming back to her. (not loans).  What is the tax rate of a dependents on 25K (schollys +summer job) -- and what can she do to lower that. she doesnt need the money right now, nor in the foreseeable future . . .
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Hal_Al
Level 15

What is best way for college kiddo to lower tax amount? upcoming freshman has 20K in scholarships in excess of tuition and fees. Should she start an IRA with her cash?

Q. What is best way for college kiddo to lower tax amount?

A. There is none. In fact, it's best of she pays more tax, so the parents can get a tax break (more on this below). 

 

Q.  Should she start an IRA with her cash?

A.  Yes and No. Taxable scholarship is not "compensation"*.  She can make an IRA contribution based only on her summer job income (up to $6500 [2023]). 

 

Q. What is the tax rate of a dependents on 25K?

A. There's more bad news (and some good news). Scholarships are a hybrid between earned and unearned income. It is earned income for purposes of the $13,850 (2023) filing requirement and the dependent standard deduction calculation (earned income + $400, but not more than $13,850).  It is not earned income for the kiddie tax and other purposes (e.g. EIC or IRA contribution*).  So, the first $13,850 will not be taxed. The rest will be taxed at the parent's marginal tax rate (the "kiddie tax")**.  The part of the scholarship that goes to "qualified educational expenses" (QEE) is not taxed. QEE is tuition, fees, books, computer and other "course materials". 

 

There is a tax “loop hole” available. The student reports all his scholarship, up to the amount needed to claim the American Opportunity Credit (AOC), as income on his return. That way, the parents  (or himself, if he is not a dependent) can claim the tuition credit on their return. They can do this because that much tuition was no longer paid by "tax free" scholarship.  You cannot do this if the school’s billing statement specifically shows the scholarships being applied to tuition or if the conditions of the grant are that it be used to pay for qualified expenses.

Using an example: Student has $25,000 in box 5 of the 1098-T and $10,000 in box 1. At first glance he/she has $15,000 of taxable income and nobody can claim the American opportunity credit. But if she reports $19,000 as income on her return, the parents can claim $4000 of qualified expenses on their return. $4000 of expenses gets the parents the maximum $2500 AOC. 

Books and computers are also qualifying expenses for the AOC. So, extending the example, the student had another $1000 in expenses for those course materials, paid out of pocket. She would only need to report $18,000 of taxable scholarship income, instead of $19,000.

 

*For grad students and post grad fellows (but not undergrads), scholarship, stipend and fellowship income is earned income ("compensation") for IRA contributions.

 

**A small portion  may be taxed at the student's rate (10%), depending on the actual numbers.    See form 8615 for the complicated calculations. For more on the kiddie tax and scholarship income, see this related post: https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/college-education/discussion/kiddie-tax-on-scholarship/00/2449625

 

 

What is best way for college kiddo to lower tax amount? upcoming freshman has 20K in scholarships in excess of tuition and fees. Should she start an IRA with her cash?

thank you for your thoughts. learned a few things.

 

fourth college kid; wonderful opportunity with scholarships full-ride first year only (tuition r&b fees); plus an extra non-school source that will be channeled through the school. (merit; not need-based). We have maxxed out of claiming the AOTC this past year.

 

interesting to know that scholarships dont count as income for an IRA.   But they do count towards the 13K exemption.  One  thing that just hit me -- all this will be cut in half for 2023 as we only have to worry about fall semester! 

 

so - if kiddo puts some of summer earnings in IRA, then the R&B scholarship (one semester) plus Half of other scholarship (around 12K total for fall semester). . . .  and that would be inside the personal exemption.  Do we as parents have to count this?  thank you for your thoughts!

 

Hal_Al
Level 15

What is best way for college kiddo to lower tax amount? upcoming freshman has 20K in scholarships in excess of tuition and fees. Should she start an IRA with her cash?

Your follow up question is not clear. Generally, there is no such thing as "halves" in taxes.  If the money is received in 2023, it gets reported in 2023. 

 

Q. Do we as parents have to count this?

A.  No,  a dependent's earned income is not reported, on the parent's return*.  Yes, it does count for the kiddie tax, reported on the student-dependent's return. 

 

*If her only income is from interest and dividends, Alaska PFD or capital gains distributions shown on a 1099-DIV, there is a provision for entering it on your return, using form 8814

What is best way for college kiddo to lower tax amount? upcoming freshman has 20K in scholarships in excess of tuition and fees. Should she start an IRA with her cash?

thanks for staying with this.  can't tell you how much i appreciate wise answers.

 

what i meant by halves -- 23-24 school year she gets 20K+ in scholarships above tuition. But for tax year purposes, only half that would be for 2023 from fall 2023; and the rest from spring semester 2024.  SO -- i think we are all good. 🙂

 

i think! not  tax person in any way shape or form obviously!!!

Hal_Al
Level 15

What is best way for college kiddo to lower tax amount? upcoming freshman has 20K in scholarships in excess of tuition and fees. Should she start an IRA with her cash?

Q For tax year purposes, only half that would be for 2023 from fall 2023; and the rest from spring semester 2024.  SO -- i think we are all good?

A. Yes, you're good. 

 

Be aware that, sometimes, there's a problem with how the school reports the  receipt of the scholarship, on the 1098-T.  But, the TurboTax interview allows you to make any adjustments. 

What is best way for college kiddo to lower tax amount? upcoming freshman has 20K in scholarships in excess of tuition and fees. Should she start an IRA with her cash?

So i'm back! completely forgot i had posted this 6 months ago. but i have some questions still.

 

it's about deductions.

 

a kid who is claimed dependent - their deduction is this, right?

"Dependents – If you can be claimed as a dependent by another taxpayer, your standard deduction for 2023 is limited to the greater of: (1) $1,250, or (2) your earned income plus $400 (but the total can't be more than the basic standard deduction for your filing status)." from irs

 

a kid who is not claimed as dependent has a 13500 deduction, correct?

 

Are scholarships above tuition counted as earned income?  so so confused . . . still

 

Hal_Al
Level 15

What is best way for college kiddo to lower tax amount? upcoming freshman has 20K in scholarships in excess of tuition and fees. Should she start an IRA with her cash?

Q. A kid who is claimed dependent - their deduction is this, right?

"Dependents – If you can be claimed as a dependent by another taxpayer, your standard deduction for 2023 is limited to the greater of: (1) $1,250, or (2) your earned income plus $400 (but the total can't be more than the basic standard deduction for your filing status)." 

A. Yes

 

Q. A kid who is not claimed as dependent has a 13,850 (for 2023) deduction, correct?

A. Not exactly.  It's not whether the kid IS actually claimed as a dependent; it's whether he CAN BE claimed as  a dependent.  If you forego claiming your dependent, for whatever reason, he does not automatically get the full $13,850 standard deduction.

 

Q. Id the taxable portion of  scholarships  counted as earned income?  \

A. Yes. The confusion comes from the fact that taxable scholarships are a hybrid between earned and unearned income. It is earned income for purposes of the $13,850 filing requirement and the dependent standard deduction calculation (earned income + $400).  It is not earned income for the kiddie tax and other purposes (e.g. EIC).  For grad students and post grad fellows, scholarship, stipend and fellowship income is earned income ("compensation") for IRA contributions.

 

Are scholarships above tuition counted as earned income?  so so confused . . . still

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