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I withdrew scholarship amount from 529 plan. Where do I report that income so that it is properly taxed, but not penalized?

Using the interview for a non educational expense option, the earnings are penalized by 10% and taxed this is incorrect
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SusanY1
Expert Alumni

I withdrew scholarship amount from 529 plan. Where do I report that income so that it is properly taxed, but not penalized?

It may save you some time and frustration to simply enter the amount that you know is taxable as "other reportable income" in the Miscellaneous income section of TurboTax.  The 1099-Q and 1098-T (expenses) forms are both informational and not required to be entered on the return.  

The TurboTax interviews are designed to help you determine the taxable amount, but in this case since you know it already entering it directly as Other reportable income will not have any negative impact.  Informational forms like the education forms aren't transmitted with the tax return data so the IRS won't see this number any differently if you enter it or if TurboTax does it for you after the interview.  

Since you know the amount already, this is the route I would advise in your case.  

 

 

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Hal_Al
Level 15

I withdrew scholarship amount from 529 plan. Where do I report that income so that it is properly taxed, but not penalized?

Q. Where do I report that income so that it is properly taxed, but not penalized?

A.  You first enter the 1099-Q at ESA and 529 Qualified Tuition Programs (1099-Q).  Then you enter your expenses and scholarship at Education Expenses and Scholarships (1098-T). It must be in that order. 

In TurboTax (TT), enter at:

Federal Taxes Tab (Personal for H&B version)

Deductions & Credits

-Scroll down to:

--Education

  --Education Expenses and Scholarships (1098-T)

  --ESA and 529 Qualified Tuition Programs (1099-Q)

 

But, it's not that simple.  Room and board (R&B), even if you live at home are qualified expenses for a 529 distribution (but not for an education credit or tax free scholarship.  So, not all of the 529 earnings will get tax.  Furthermore, you may need to allocate expenses to the credit and/or to scholarships.  So, it pays to have an idea of what you're wanting as you go thru the TT interview. 

 

Provide the following info for more specific help:

  • Are you the student or parent.
  • Is the  student  the parent's dependent.
  • Box 1 of the 1098-T
  • box 5 of the 1098-T
  • Any other scholarships not shown in box 5
  • Does box 5 include any of the 529/ESA plan payments (it should not)
  • Is any of the Scholarship restricted; i.e. it must be used for tuition
  • Box 1 of the 1099-Q
  • Box 2 of the 1099-Q
  • Who’s name and SS# are on the 1099-Q, parent or student (who’s the “recipient”)?
  • Room & board paid. If student lives off campus, what is school's R&B on campus charge. If he lives at home, the school’s R&B “allowance for cost of attendance” for student living with parents.
  • Other qualified expenses not included in box 1 of the 1098-T, e.g. books & computers
  • How much taxable income does the student have, from what sources
  • Are you trying to claim the tuition credit (are you eligible)?
  • Is the student an undergrad or grad student?
  • Is the student a degree candidate attending school half time or more?
Hal_Al
Level 15

I withdrew scholarship amount from 529 plan. Where do I report that income so that it is properly taxed, but not penalized?

Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit regardless of whose money was used to pay the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board which is only qualified for the 1099-Q)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. A student, with no other income, can have up to $14,600 of taxable scholarship (in 2024) and still pay no income tax. 

thedips
Returning Member

I withdrew scholarship amount from 529 plan. Where do I report that income so that it is properly taxed, but not penalized?

These answers are appreciated, but do not actually answer the question. There does not seem to be a way to indicate that the distribution on from  the 529 account is a taxable refund, but not subject to a penalty. Any other thoughts? 

 

Hal_Al
Level 15

I withdrew scholarship amount from 529 plan. Where do I report that income so that it is properly taxed, but not penalized?

It's not that simple. 

If you follow the TurboTax (TT)  interview and answer all the questions, and make all the entries,  it will do all that for you (theoretically). 

 

BUT, the TT interview is designed to (try) to handle all scenarios. Including some unexpected ones. So, it's best if you have some idea of the expected outcome. 

 

I will  give you a short cut that will do what you think you want (see below the line).  But you actually want more.  In the overall tax accounting, the 529 withdrawal does not actually duplicate the (tax free) scholarship expenses.  You do not have to pay tax on all that distribution earnings. This is because room & board (even if you live at home) is a qualified expense for a 529 distribution but not  a qualified expense for tax free scholarship. You also want to claim the tuition credit, if you are eligible (income not too high).

__________________________________________________________________________________________

529 Scholarship Exception  workaround in TurboTax:

Enter the 1099-Q. When asked who the student is answer: someone else not listed here (lying to TurboTax to get it to do what you want does not constitute lying to the IRS).  Enter the student's name when asked.  A few screens later, you'll get one simple screen to enter expenses. Press Done at the 1099-Q summary screen, to get there. Also enter the amount of the scholarship in the box "Tax-free assistance".  This reports the earnings as taxable and claims the scholarship exception. You do not have to deal with the complicated “Educational expenses and Scholarships” (1098-T) section later. TT will prepare form 5329 to claim the penalty exception. 

thedips
Returning Member

I withdrew scholarship amount from 529 plan. Where do I report that income so that it is properly taxed, but not penalized?

Thank you so much for your responses, I really appreciate the help.

I'm still not getting the results that I believe is correct. I'll round the numbers for simplicity.

Payments made to the university are on an 1099-Q sent to my student, and being handled separately.

The 1099-Q represents a payment to me from the 529 for the value of "prepaid tuition". I expect to pay taxes on the earnings, but not be penalized.

1099-Q distribution of 17,000.  Earnings of 2000, Basis of 15000. 

 

My Schedule 1 Line 8z correctly shows the 2000 as additional income.

My Schedule 2 Line 8 incorrectly shows an additional tax of 200.

My 5329 Line 5 correctly shows the 2000 as additional income.

My 5329 Line 6 incorrectly is blank as the amount not subject to the additional tax.

 

I'm just not seeing a way to indicate that these earnings are taxable, but not subject to penalty.

Unless I manually enter the 2000 onto the Schedule 1 with the same descriptor, and remove the 1099-Q/ 5329 form,  BUT that's feels like I won't be submitting the correct forms.

Any thoughts?

 

SusanY1
Expert Alumni

I withdrew scholarship amount from 529 plan. Where do I report that income so that it is properly taxed, but not penalized?

It may save you some time and frustration to simply enter the amount that you know is taxable as "other reportable income" in the Miscellaneous income section of TurboTax.  The 1099-Q and 1098-T (expenses) forms are both informational and not required to be entered on the return.  

The TurboTax interviews are designed to help you determine the taxable amount, but in this case since you know it already entering it directly as Other reportable income will not have any negative impact.  Informational forms like the education forms aren't transmitted with the tax return data so the IRS won't see this number any differently if you enter it or if TurboTax does it for you after the interview.  

Since you know the amount already, this is the route I would advise in your case.  

 

 

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thedips
Returning Member

I withdrew scholarship amount from 529 plan. Where do I report that income so that it is properly taxed, but not penalized?

Thank you very much! You have saved me a lot of time!

Hal_Al
Level 15

I withdrew scholarship amount from 529 plan. Where do I report that income so that it is properly taxed, but not penalized?

You can probably "get away with" doing it that way (the result is the same). But, technically, you are suppose to generate form 5329 to claim the penalty exception. The "somebody not listed here" workaround accomplishes that because it has you enter the scholarship amount as a match to the expenses.  

 

Based on your limited description of the situation ("withdrew scholarship amount"), entering the room & board amount, as well as tuition and books should reduce or eliminate the amount of earnings actually taxed. 

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