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My sons are both in college, and since our income is low, we should not owe any income tax this year. Therefore the AOTC $2500 credit is more than we can use. Additionally, we'd like to take as much as possible from the 529 plan so we don't leave any excess behind. What's the best way to do this given:
1. $5,742 in expenses for year
2. No anticipated tax due
3. $15K in 529 plan
Can we take $4,724 from 529 plan and use only $1,000 of the AOTC? Or do you have to use $4,000 for AOTC (getting the $1,000 refund) and then take only $1,742 from the 529 plan?
Appreciate any clarification or guidance.
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Simple answer: withdraw the full amount of expenses from your 529 plan. Even if you claim the AOTC (and you should), the 10% penalty is waived on the distribution because you claimed another education tax benefit. Even if a portion of the distribution is taxable (it's unlikely to push your income into taxable range)), it will be offset by the additional $1500 AOTC you can claim (up to $2500 total) .
Yes, you have to use $4000 of tuition to claim the $1000 AOTC, even though the other $1500 (non refundable portion) of the AOTC may go to waste.
In addition to tuition, fees, books and computers, room and board are qualified expenses for a 529 distribution. Board (food) may even be claimed if the student lives at home. You may use your actual food cost or the school's meal plan allowance, whichever is less.
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Qualified Tuition Plans (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions
General Discussion
It’s complicated.
For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.
You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.
Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $2800
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable
40% x 2800= $1120
You have $1120 of taxable income
**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip! When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings.
Thanks, Hal_AI. Wouldn't that be considered double-dipping because you received the $4K tax credit? Or, does that make the $4K a non-qualified distribution that you have to pay income on....sorry, so confused.
Q. Wouldn't that be considered double-dipping because you received the $2500 tax credit, for the $4K of expenses?
A. No, because, as your surmised, that makes $4K of the 529 distribution non-qualified. In your case that doesn't matter. Yes, you have taxable income, from the non qualified distribution, added to your other income. But your income is so low that there may not be enough to get you into even the lowest tax bracket. But, even if some of it is taxable, the non refundable portion of the AOTC kicks in and covers it. It's not double dipping. You were always entitled to the $1500. But, before the extra income (from the non qualified distribution), there was no calculated tax to apply the credit to. Now there is (or may be).
Oh yes, it's confusing! That's why there's a whole tax prep industry! TurboTax (TT) can handle this complicated calculation and will prepare IRS form 5329 to calculate and claim the penalty exception.
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