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Professional Gambling income for Schedule C - no place to enter it so that TT treats it as gambling income and taxes at the proper rate

The problem is projecting the net profit to take 60% of, right?  Especially in this case.  In my residential design consulting business, I can project based on my hourly rate what a reasonable assumption of my income for a year will be.  No so much this.

 

Professional Gambling income for Schedule C - no place to enter it so that TT treats it as gambling income and taxes at the proper rate

 

Professional Gambling income for Schedule C - no place to enter it so that TT treats it as gambling income and taxes at the proper rate

I've read about people who tried that and ran afoul of the IRS for not having paid estimated taxes along the way that made up at least 90% of the eventual tax liability.  I'm not trying to skirt any rules or fudge anything here, but don't want to pay more than required (who does).  I've run my own business for decades and am well versed in paying estimated taxes.  I just need a reasonable basis for this new activity.  

 

To that end I need to have a well-documented process and record-keeping showing I'm following it.  From everything I've seen, that's a key element to stay on the IRS good side.  Then I need a professional opinion on what will qualify based on case law to be a reasonable approach to estimating the taxes quarterly, and what a "reasonable" salary would be.  So many of the cases I've found out there on this topic start off stating "THIS CASE CAN NOT BE CONSIDERED PRECIDENT" in screaming text.  It's almost like every case is a one-off decision. 

 

Not a comfortable place to be.

Professional Gambling income for Schedule C - no place to enter it so that TT treats it as gambling income and taxes at the proper rate

 

Professional Gambling income for Schedule C - no place to enter it so that TT treats it as gambling income and taxes at the proper rate

 

Professional Gambling income for Schedule C - no place to enter it so that TT treats it as gambling income and taxes at the proper rate

Pardon me for not being clear.  Tried doing a single payment at the end of the year, but NOT having made sufficient estimated payments throughout the year.  I'd have to look back to see if those were properly set up as W2 wages from an S-Corp.  That's been a couple of years ago and I don't recall the details.

 

Are you saying that making a single salary payment at the end of the year with appropriate withholdings covering the full amount is acceptable practice?  I can see if there was an employment agreement that stated that the salary was yearly, paid on Dec. 31, maybe that works.  The only real benefit there is keeping the capital in the business throughout the year, though.  Unless I'm actually using it all actively, I'm not sure it's much of a benefit over taking more frequent distributions/salary. 

 

In the case of the gambling business, if I'm keeping that money in use as stake money, then yes waiting has value, but I'm finding it's not likely to be the scenario.  I can keep $20-50K in play at any given time, so if money starts growing beyond that substantially, I'd rather move it to long-term investment vehicles.

Professional Gambling income for Schedule C - no place to enter it so that TT treats it as gambling income and taxes at the proper rate

 

Professional Gambling income for Schedule C - no place to enter it so that TT treats it as gambling income and taxes at the proper rate

I appreciate the info.  Answered my initial question, as well as getting more good information.  Trying to get this set up properly for next year starting Jan.1, so I'm running low on time.  I did enough this year to verify the model I'm using, and I like the return rate, so I'm adding this to my business portfolio. 

 

Cheers!  Happy Holidays! etc. etc.

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