I have roughly $10k in option trade loses for the year 2018. It was an investment that didnt work out. Is it possibly to get some kind of refund and if yes, how?
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@warith3140 wrote:I have roughly $10k in option trade loses for the year 2018. It was an investment that didnt work out. Is it possibly to get some kind of refund and if yes, how?
You really need to provide additional details. It is almost impossible to set forth an accurate answer based on very few facts.
However, losses or gains from the options transactions (e.g., purchase/sale of puts and calls) are considered capital losses or gains; you do not automatically "get some kind of refund" merely because you lost money on options trades. Rather, your losses and gains (if any) are netted together, you can deduct any remaining loss up to $3,000 against other income, and have to carry over a net loss exceeding $3,000 to subsequent tax years (e.g., if you have a $10,000 net capital loss, you use $3,000 of that loss to offset other income and then carry the remaining $7,000 loss to the following tax year).
Again, if you provide more details, you will most likely receive a more targeted answer. Be advised that there is a difference between pure equity options (such as options to buy or sell shares of stock in one particular company) and broad-based stock index options (such as the S&P 500 Index).
See https://www.irs.gov/publications/p550#en_US_2017_publink100010618 and
https://www.irs.gov/publications/p550#en_US_2017_publink100010327
@warith3140 wrote:I have roughly $10k in option trade loses for the year 2018. It was an investment that didnt work out. Is it possibly to get some kind of refund and if yes, how?
You really need to provide additional details. It is almost impossible to set forth an accurate answer based on very few facts.
However, losses or gains from the options transactions (e.g., purchase/sale of puts and calls) are considered capital losses or gains; you do not automatically "get some kind of refund" merely because you lost money on options trades. Rather, your losses and gains (if any) are netted together, you can deduct any remaining loss up to $3,000 against other income, and have to carry over a net loss exceeding $3,000 to subsequent tax years (e.g., if you have a $10,000 net capital loss, you use $3,000 of that loss to offset other income and then carry the remaining $7,000 loss to the following tax year).
Again, if you provide more details, you will most likely receive a more targeted answer. Be advised that there is a difference between pure equity options (such as options to buy or sell shares of stock in one particular company) and broad-based stock index options (such as the S&P 500 Index).
See https://www.irs.gov/publications/p550#en_US_2017_publink100010618 and
https://www.irs.gov/publications/p550#en_US_2017_publink100010327
I think you pretty much answered my question. I took several equity (stock) option trades that resulted in a net loss of $10k. Some small portion of it was due to trading SPX index but the majority was due to stock options (i.e FANG).
Also if you have Capital losses (from stocks) that were not reported the previous year, how long do you have before those net losses are no longer usable?
@warith3140 wrote:how long do you have before those net losses are no longer usable?
You can carry over your total net capital losses indefinitely (until they are completely used up).
See https://www.irs.gov/publications/p17#en_US_2018_publink1000172511
You've been a great help and I really appreciate it 🙂
You are most welcome. 😁
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