I downloaded and activated TurboTax deluxe 2021 on 11/12.
Today, 11/18, it downloaded the first online update. It is now refusing to start without re-entering the activation code a second time. I need to know if this will use up another of my 5 permitted activations. I have to run this on 3 computers all of which have been activated once already prior to the 11/18 update.
I can't find a way to start TurboTax 2021 without re-activating. On a new computer with an activated TurboTax I did the following:
I really need to know if I can reactivate an already activated TurboTax 2021 WITHOUT losing one of my 5 activations.
this was a problem last year as well...and it uses up an install
I think @Critter-3 figured it out last year (and may correct me if I have this wrong)
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But I think the issue was tracked to the exact computer setup you had when you first installed the program.
1) If you had any kind of a usb device or flash memory inserted in a port when you first installed the software, it has to be present again when you run an update. Otherwise, it will ask for the code and use up an installation
or
2) IF no device was installed in a port when the software was initially installed, and there is one in a port when you run the update...then it will ask for the code and use up an installation.
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Use them up uselessly....you can always try customer support during working hours to see if they have another solution (or allow you a new code):
What is the TurboTax phone number? (intuit.com)
There were no configuration changes between the first activation and today. Thanks for the contact info - I've been on the phone with support for 40 minutes now. Activating one machine today used another activation code, so support is trying to figure out how to give me more activations.
I've confirmed it's a problem with today's update: After being forced to re-activate my primary computer and unable to decline the update on my second computer, I restarted the update on the second computer, killed the wifi to interrupt the update, after which I was able to cancel the update and open TurboTax 2021 without having to reactivate, which rules out a computer issue, such as Windows update, an external drive attached / not attached, etc.
After verifying it wasn't a computer issue, I went ahead and allowed TT 2021 to update on the second computer, and ended up in activation hell there, too.
As such, I've now burned 4 activations on 2 computers.
Intuit really needs to fix this. This has been a problem for all three TT versions that have required activation.
The only improvement is that TT 2019/2020 was a user-level activation, a problem on multi-user computers, and TT 2021 is a system-level activation, as it should be.
The support agent was unable to push a new activation code to me because TurboTax 2021 Deluxe wasn't in their support system yet - I have to call back in a couple of weeks. She did annotate my account to say to give it to me when I called.
I'm having exactly the same issue with TTax 2021 Premier. Installed in early November, launched several times without incident to work on tax returns. Launched it today, Nov 19, 2021. TTax installed updates and now it wants activation code again.
We really need help with this.
One of my 3 previously activated computers hasn't gotten the update yet. I plan to not launch TurboTax on that computer for a couple of weeks in hopes that whatever update is available then will have figured out that it doesn't have to be reactivated.
Update: Called TTax support and pointed to this thread. No known resolution and the product is new enough that support reps "cannot create an order for new activation codes." The only advice was to check back sometime in the future.
@krochat IF you are using Windows computers
....on the computer you've already updated...go up into the to top bar menu
>>Online>> Updater Preferences>> and select the choice indicating you don't have an internet connection.
Yeah, you do, but this selection turns off all automatic updates. (or optionally, the "Ask Me" selection instead)
You can still check for updates later, perhaps in a few weeks...when you decide you want to attempt it again. (historically, this hasn't been available for folks on MACs)
@krochat - thanks for the thought, but once the update has been made, it isn't possible to get into TTax without burning another activation code. so it's not possible to change preferences.
The updates are important. The product was released on November 4, very buggy and very imcomplete. The first few updates are what make the product useful.
@GregY That was my comment, but only for his computer that had been updated, and didn't need the code again ( unless he updates again..maybe)
I always turn off my automatic updates selection, the very first time I install may desktop software...then I can always choose when to update or not...
Of course, I won't bother buying an installation download until January, so that most of these problems have already been worked out......( thanks to all you beta testers 😉 )
I am a Turbo tax advantage user and called the "special support number for Advantage members" since I had the problem this morning. I tried to explain the problem and after about 30 minutes was told it was because I had both Business (1041) and Premier (1040) installed. Wrong, but I did get the agent to say she would report the issue. About 5 minutes later a supervisor called me back and apologized for the incorrect information regarding have both Business and Premier installed. She indicated that they are aware of the issue and working on a fix. Hopefully they will make this a high priority. In the meantime I turned off the automatic update per your suggestion. Thanks for the workaround.
Any chance any of you are using a VPN?
One user found that their NortonSecureVPN was causing the problem, and turning it off, just for the update and restart, eliminated the need for re-entering the code.
@SteamTrain, thanks for asking, but no. I keep the VPN disabled before launching TTax. And I did try rebooting with the VPN off.
My VPN caused TurboTax 2020 to deactivate itself (no VPN when originally activated, launched 9 months later with VPN active and TurboTax 2020 deactivated itself!
So no, I'm careful to NEVER USE VPN when running TurboTax.
@SteamTrain @proudmom52 This whole saga is really disrespectful of customers who use the product for year end tax planning. I have one activation code left after installing it on my 3 devices. The fact that Intuit distributed the bug as part of an update and is unable to provide replacement activation codes... you really have to have lack any sense of caring about users to set that up.
@krochat Yes - the algorithm used to detect a change in hardware is childish. Any USB device (even a printer or an additional drive???), change in VPN..., and now the installation of a buggy update. Seriously. I'm not a criminal. I'm a customer who pays retail price and just wants to use the product for a valid purpose within the terms of or the user agreement. It's not me that's violating the terms right now. It's Intuit.
Year end planning?..
The new tax product that comes out in November is almost useless for doing that...every year....and usually isn't substantially useful for that until it's actually into the next year...Jan or Feb. Might be lucky and get some crude estimates with it by mid December, but you can't trust it ,one whit, this soon.
The What-IF worksheet in the prior year's desktop software (2020 in this case) is almost always better. Yeah, there's usually some yearly change that the What-IF won't cover for the next year, but it's usually close enough for most planning purposes. At this point, the major one I could see going screwy in the What-If , would be the advanced tax credits that some families may be getting and how that will balance out (or not).
...but looking for commonalities for the bug, at least 2 of the three of you use VPN's in one way or another.....even if you already do turn it off during installs or updates..
Haven't heard form @proudmom52 yet..
Hi Steamtrain
I use Norton VPN but only for my IPad and phone. I verified that it is not turned on for my desktop machine.
However, I may have had it activated for my desktop machine when I first installed Turbo tax Premier and Business. I don't remember exactly when I turned it off (edited to add second comment 6:56 on 11/20)
@SteamTrain - The deactivation was caused by the 11/17 TurboTax update. One of my two PC's that got deactivated didn't have VPN installed.
I think everyone who does their own finances online should be using VPN, so it's no surprise the most of us early adopters have it. What's sad is that TurboTax activation doesn't play well with VPN so we have to make sure its deactivated when starting TurboTax.
@SteamTrain My experience with year-end tax planning with the TurboTax "beta" has been varied, but last year (2020) I used it to do the maximum Roth conversion I could and still stay in my tax bracket the last week of December and was only off $8. Realizing capital gain/losses and Roth conversions / IRA distributions are things that have to be done by 12/31, so I use the best tools I have at that time.
I started up TT that was deactivated because of the 11/17 update and not reactivated. It installed the 11/22 update on start up but is still deactivated.
I have another PC with TT that was activated and did not install the 11/17 update. I wonder what will happen if it loads the 11/22 update on startup.
It would sure be nice if there were release notes with the updates...