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posted Jan 7, 2021 7:27:26 AM

IRS saids we have to claim other 600.00 on tax return how do we do that in is the paper work ava. at this time???

i have done m y taxes with you for the last 2 years  i am told by the IRS  that i have to claim my 600.00 when i file my return  is that ava. as of yet///

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Expert Alumni
Jan 7, 2021 7:43:49 AM

That will be available as soon as the 2020 tax returns are able to be accepted for e-filing.  Although a specific date has not yet been given, the last several years e-filing began at the end of January, and this year will likely not be different.  Anyone who does not receive the stimulus payment automatically and otherwise qualifies will be able to claim it as part of their 2020 refund when they file their tax return.

Alumni
Jan 7, 2021 7:52:58 AM

As part of the tax filing process, TurboTax sends the appropriate banking information to the IRS to deliver stimulus payments directly to customer bank accounts. The IRS will issue payments using the most recent information they have on file, likely from your 2019 tax return, either by direct deposit or by check.

  • If the IRS does not have direct deposit information on file for you, they will mail a check using the most recent address on your 2019 tax return.
  • If you receive Social Security or Veterans benefits, your payment will be automatically included.
  • If you received your refund on a Turbo Card, this stimulus payment may also go to the same account.

If you did not receive a stimulus, you will need to contact the IRS for next steps. Please know that the IRS will make updates to the Get My Payment portal to provide updated information for taxpayers, you will be able to see updates about your payment there.

For more information, visit this IRS news release.

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:01:13 AM

look at the 'federal review' section Turbo Tax where it asks about what stimulus payments you have received.


Then, your credit will be displayed on Line 30 of Form 1040, which will increase your refund (or reduce what you owe) 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:03:42 AM

The entry for line 30 now seems to contain both payments.  My program was updated this morning. 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:04:54 AM

@Opus 17 - please confirm whether that is online or desktop. I have desktop and can confirm it is working...other posts note that online is not operational currently. 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:08:28 AM

As of 1108 EST the online editions have not been updated.

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:10:03 AM

Desktop.

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:11:19 AM

well, at least TT is making progress! 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:18:30 AM

FYI - I updated my Desktop program.  I haven't entered all my income yet so I expected to see the full amount.  I only got some for the first Stimulus.  BUT it didn't give me any.  YOU HAVE TO ENTER A 0 ZERO IF YOU DIDN'T GET ONE.  You can't leave it blank.  I went back and put 0 for the second one and then it gave me the full amount qualified for both.   

 

And those 2 questions on the worksheet lines 3 & 4 about military and ssn are kind of confusing. 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:22:39 AM

@VolvoGirl - did you get an error of any sort for leaving it blank? I would hope so which will force everyone who has been filling out their tax form to be required to go back and fix the EIP section.

 

can we try and force the form to ask about child support on the 1st payment - that is the way the IRS form is created in the IRS instructions but TT wasn't asking about it originally and that can lead to problems. 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:27:46 AM

I didn't get an error and don't know if it would.  I had switched to Forms to see line 30 and there was nothing on it so I opened the Recovery Worksheet and the second one was pink/red for needing to be filled in.  So I went back to the questions and entered an actual zero.  Then it said Congratulations with the Total in green. 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:29:51 AM

so if was pink / red that is an error so that is good 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:29:52 AM


@NCperson wrote:

@VolvoGirl - did you get an error of any sort for leaving it blank? I would hope so which will force everyone who has been filling out their tax form to be required to go back and fix the EIP section.

 

In forms mode, the fields are yellow, which generally means they are mandatory.  I can't take the time to carry a fake return all the way to the final federal review to do an error check. 

 

On the EIP screen it only asks for the payment amount.  At the blue link for "Where can I find my payment amount" it advises to check your 1444 statement, check your bank account, or check the IRS web site.  It does not mention garnishments. 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:45:03 AM

I think not asking about garnishments for Stim #1 is a problem - it asked for the EXACT amount received and doesn't make mention of adjusting if there was a garnishment; I beleive that will cause TT to give you back all the money that was garnished.  

 

how does that feedback get to the Lounge or an Administrator?

 

@VolvoGirl @Critter-3 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:49:50 AM


@NCperson wrote:

I think not asking about garnishments for Stim #1 is a problem - it asked for the EXACT amount received and doesn't make mention of adjusting if there was a garnishment; I beleive that will cause TT to give you back all the money that was garnished.  

 

how does that feedback get to the Lounge or an Administrator?

 

@VolvoGirl @Critter-3 


I already posted it privately, it may not happen.  The program quality people are notoriously conservative, and I think that since option 1 is check your 1444 and option 3 is check the IRS web site, both of which should show the ungarnished amount, they may consider that good enough.  (Further, I suspect that not having the correct amount will cause an efile rejection.)

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 8:54:15 AM

thanks 

 

but the wording does ask for the 'exact' amount of the payment.

 

 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 9:07:18 AM

@NCperson The Recovery Rebate Credit Worksheet on Line 16 is specific - Enter the amount, if any, of EIP 1 that was issued to you (before offset for any past-due child support payment)

 

TurboTax should use the same verbiage.  Hopefully it will get changed.

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 9:08:19 AM

@DoninGA Yup, that makes A LOT of sense!! 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 9:17:13 AM

Duh, I was making a screen shot and just noticed that the screen does say to enter 0 if you didn't get it.  But it's good to know.  Do you think users will miss it and not enter it?  

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 9:42:18 AM

@VolvoGirl - that is why I asked if it created an error for leaving it blank, which they all are as the new software is introduced.... if the field is left blank (hence the error), as long as that causes TT to send the user to fix it, then all will be required fix it and no one will miss it.   see where I am going?

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 10:29:50 AM

This thread seems to be a good one to use for questions since I don't have access to the back room.  Just testing in my program.   One scenario,

If you got the the first 2,400 but not the 500 for child so it s/b 2,900. 

But then made too much in 2020 to get any or a reduced amount (say $300)

You don't get the extra 500 for the first one and nothing for the second because you already got 2,400.

So first and second are cumulative?

You actually got 2,100 too much, right?

 

Is the 300 on worksheet line 15 the total qualified for both or just the second one?   

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 12:10:50 PM

The online in now working but I agree this is a disaster waiting to happen ... I can hear the swearing from the users already as there returns are delayed and corrected due to the misunderstanding on the stimulus screen instructions ... the IRS line 30 worksheet LINE 16  clearly says to enter the payment BEFORE OFFSETS.  This may not be the amount the notice 1444 or 1444-B has listed ...

 

Enter the amount, if any, of EIP 1 that was issued to you (before offset for any past-due child support payment).
You may refer to Notice 1444 or your tax account information at IRS.gov/Account for the amount to
enter here    

 

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040gi.pdf  

 

 

If history has told us in the past you cannot expect any TT user to READ the fine print at all ... and to have incorrect info on the main page AND the "learn more" links is  just plain SAD. 

 

Who proof reads this before putting it in service ???   Obviously they don't ask any of us regular posters on this forum as this is something we would have pointed out quickly .... I hope the moderators take heed of this warning and run this issue up the chain ASAP  before anything can be efiled incorrectly. 

 

 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 12:15:27 PM

@Critter-3 - suggest all of the 'champs' "bang the table" to get the wording changed.   It's a really bad customer experience as the wording specifically states to enter "the exact amount"  - and it will have the effect of increased the expected refund...whether the IRS catches it prior to issuing the refund or comes back months later after reviewing, it'll be a really bad customer experience that Intuit can "nip in the bud" NOW.

 

 

Level 15
Jan 7, 2021 1:00:26 PM

@VolvoGirl - let me repost your thread and explain 

 

If you got the the first 2,400 but not the 500 for child so it s/b 2,900. 

But then made too much in 2020 to get any or a reduced amount (say $300)

You don't get the extra 500 for the first one and nothing for the second because you already got 2,400.

So first and second are cumulative?

You actually got 2,100 too much, right?

 

since you didn't list the income I really can't work through this , but there is no such thing as 'too much' as Congress said no one was going to be asked to return money.

 

Let me try a different example: 

2018 income $80,000. joint, 1 child

2019 income $75,000 joint 1 child

2020 income $160,000, joint 2 children (one born in 2020)

 

For the first stimulus payment, the IRS used my 2018 tax return, and I received $2900

for the 2nd stimulus payment, the IRS used my 2019 tax return and I received $1200 - IRS couldn't explain why they left off my child.  The new born isn't the child left off because Baby wasn't on my 2019 tax return,

 

For my 2020 tax return, here is how EIP is calculated: 

  • I was eligible for $3400 on the 1st stimulus payment (2 adults and 2 children) and that is reduced by $500 because my 2020 income is $10,000 over the $150,00 threshold.  So $2900 is the result
  • I was eligible for $2400 on the 2nd stimulus payment (2 adults and 2 children) and that is reduced by $500 because my 2020 income is $10,000 over the $150,00 threshold. so $1900

I received $4100 from the Payments and I am eligible for $4800 in EIP.  Line 30 should display $700.... 

 

I worked this out against the worksheet in the 1040 instructions

Line 5 - $2400

Line 6 - $1000

line 7 - $3400

line 8 - $1200

line 9- $1200

line 10 - $2400

line 11 $160,000

line 12 - $150,000

line 13 - $10,000

line 14 - $500

line 15 - $2900

line 16 - $2900

line 17 - -0-

line 18 - $1900

line 19 - $1200

line 20 - $700

line 21  - $700