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Level 2
posted Mar 17, 2021 2:36:34 PM

Form 8958 (Community Property) not included in software e-file?

I'm filing my returns in a community property state (TX) and am using the desktop version of Home & Business TurboTax (for Mac). Elsewhere on the forum, I managed to find directions on how to include Form 8958 (no easy task!), which is required for my specific return. However, when I go to save a copy of my return for my records, the form isn't included. Nor does it appear to be included in the documents for e-filing. This was the whole reason I purchased the software instead of using TurboTax online.

 

Is this a bug? Why does the desktop software allow you to fill out Form 8958 but not include it in your paperwork? How does one escalate this to technical support? If this can't be resolved can I request a refund for the software? Any help would be appreciated. 

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Employee Tax Expert
Mar 27, 2021 1:16:26 PM

If you are divorced, you would not be considered married for tax purposes, and as such, would not have any community property filing requirements.

 

If however, you have requirement to file Form 8958, you will need to mail in your tax return as it cannot be electronically filed.  Your marital status isn't reflected as Married Filing Jointly or Separately, so the form will not process as it isn't technically required if you aren't married.  

 

You can switch your filing status to Married Filing Separately to generate the form per the instructions previously provided but will need to switch your status back to Head of Household before you complete your return.  You can then print your tax return and attach Form 8958 as required per your agreement to meet your filing obligations.

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Employee Tax Expert
Mar 22, 2021 10:04:49 AM

You can add this form into your return by following the steps below.

  1. Log back into TurboTax.
  2. Go to the Forms section
  3. In the left panel, select Open Form (the screen will be similar to the sample below)

 

Type in 8958, scroll down and select Form 8958 - Allocation of Community Property Amounts and open the form.

When you see the form, select the box Yes where it says Important:  Are allocated community property amounts reported on this return?  

 

This will generate the form and allow you proceed to edit your information and generate the form in your tax return.

 

 

 

If you wish to discuss your account with an agent, please use the link below to contact us for assistance.

Contact TurboTax

 

New Member
Mar 25, 2021 8:55:12 AM

I'm having the same problem with the desktop version of TurboTax Deluxe on a Mac. I can see the form in the software, and I have completed it (including checking the "yes" box). I can also view my entries through the EasyStep guides. However, the form itself still does not render/generate when I preview the "Returns for Filing" documents. I'm reluctant to e-file my return until I confirm Form 8958 will be included in my electronic return because it is a required form. Please advise. Thanks!

Intuit Alumni
Mar 25, 2021 11:25:35 AM

@kerid, you would need to use the FAQ link provided below to reach out to TurboTax customer support for assistance with this issue:

 

TurboTax customer support

Level 2
Mar 27, 2021 12:08:09 PM

Thank you so much for this detailed reply. I have done as advised and Turbotax still doesn't include Form 8958 in my returns. If it helps, I'm divorced and filling Head of Household, and need the form to explain the reporting of 50% of my ex-partner's income - per our divorce decree and IRS regulations. I can search for and print/save the form individually, if I want to mail my returns, but for obvious reasons I prefer to e-file. I really think this is a bug that should be escalated to TurboTax software engineers. ???

Level 2
Mar 27, 2021 12:09:30 PM

FYI, I spoke with technical support and with an agent and we were not able to resolve this issue. 

Employee Tax Expert
Mar 27, 2021 1:16:26 PM

If you are divorced, you would not be considered married for tax purposes, and as such, would not have any community property filing requirements.

 

If however, you have requirement to file Form 8958, you will need to mail in your tax return as it cannot be electronically filed.  Your marital status isn't reflected as Married Filing Jointly or Separately, so the form will not process as it isn't technically required if you aren't married.  

 

You can switch your filing status to Married Filing Separately to generate the form per the instructions previously provided but will need to switch your status back to Head of Household before you complete your return.  You can then print your tax return and attach Form 8958 as required per your agreement to meet your filing obligations.

New Member
Mar 4, 2022 2:26:53 PM

I've got the same problem this year (2021 tax year) as several people submitting questions last tax year. Disappointed that Turbo Tax hasn't fixed this

 

This is the problem statement in my case and some others: a couple who divorced during the year (any time except 12/31) in a community state need to file as single, but also include a portion of the community income/deductions for the time up to their settlement date. (The split depends on the details of their settlement). Thus one of the couple receives a 1099 or W2 that includes income "as a nominee" for the other, for the period up to the settlement (divorce decree). We need to use form 8958 to split out the portion of that will be declared by our ex-spouse of their separate single return 

 

Your solution seems to be to fiddle with MFS setting, print the form then file paper version, however my state required electronic submission so this is not satisfactory. I will have to apply for waiver from CA for electronic submission....

 

Please fix this 

 

 

New Member
Mar 4, 2022 2:30:51 PM

"If you are divorced, you would not be considered married for tax purposes, and as such, would not have any community property filing requirements".

 

This is simply incorrect - please see my other reply.  In the year of the divorce, you have the period of time up to the settlement date as a married couple, who are thus in a community. Thus for that period you have community income, this income must be divided appropriately and declared by each. Then you also have the remainder of the year as a single filer.  So your return in the year of divorce is a blend of the two periods.  

 

  

 

 

Expert Alumni
Mar 7, 2022 6:50:03 PM

Your statements concerning the settlement of community property are correct.  In order to resolve this issue, I need a diagnostic file which is a copy of your tax return that has all of your personal information removed. You can send one to us by following the directions below:

  1. Sign in to your online account.
  2. Locate the Tax Tools on the left-hand side of the screen. 
  3. A drop-down will appear. Select Tools  
  4. On the pop-up screen, click on “Share my file with agent.”
  5. This will generate a message that a diagnostic file gets sanitized and transmitted to us.
  6. Please provide the Token Number that was generated in the response.

New Member
Mar 8, 2022 12:16:56 PM

Replying to LeanardS - (please note, this is AP47, but for some reason I had to re-register as AP 49)

 

The token is 949260

 

Thank you for our help

 

 

Returning Member
Apr 11, 2022 3:11:32 AM

Are you able to resolve the issue of 8958 not included in efile tax return? I encountered the same.

Intuit Alumni
Apr 14, 2022 3:23:52 PM

Have you already filed your return? Also, are you filing using the desktop version or online? @Starcatch

Returning Member
Apr 15, 2022 4:56:24 AM

Not yet. I am using desktop version for windows.  I can select form view and generate the 8958 individually but not in efile package. I hope I can efile if this can be resolved.

 

Another issue that bothers me is: since the community property adjustment goes into "other income" in schedule CA (540NR) , section B (additional income), line 8z(other income), however TurboTax shows blank (meaning 0) in column D (Total amount using CA law as if you were a CA resident) and don't allow input in this column at this line , thus the section B line 10 (total), column D(CA amount as if CA resident) differs from column A(fed amount) by the adjustment amount.  Al though it seems not impact my total state tax, but the diff looks incorrect. Is this a bug?

 

Thank you

Returning Member
Apr 15, 2022 5:01:35 AM

forgot to mention, my filing status is head of household (married but lived apart from spouse for the whole 2021)

Expert Alumni
Apr 15, 2022 5:52:24 AM

Compare this with your return from last year to see if this looks right or not.  In this public forum we do not have access to your account or tax return.  It may be necessary that if you are not getting the correct figures to file an extension for now, and please call in this experience to our phone customer support service by using the instructions in the following link: How do I contact TurboTax?

Level 2
Feb 19, 2023 4:42:39 PM

2022 is the first year I have had to use the Form 8958 for splitting income and expenses in a Community Property state, so the hint really helped me find the form within TurboTax for my mother (94 years old) who is now filing MFS(married, filing separate) instead of a joint return with her second husband this year (for medical reasons).  

 

There is one trick you need to watch.  If you back up to review other entries in the TT data in the file, be sure to preview your forms to be sure the Form 8958 is there AND that all the data entered is actually there BEFORE you submit the electronic file to the IRS. 

 

I had backed up to work on some other areas of the tax file data after I had already generated the Form 8958.  One of the choices caused the TTax program to drop the data automatically generated for the primary spouse from the form, leaving only the data I had manually input into the form for the other spouse. 

 

The problem was the TurboTax program had reset the checkbox near the top of the form in "IMPORTANT:  Are allocated community property amounts reported on this return?" back to "NO," so TTax program had dropped out the data automatically inserted into the form by the program.  It's just a matter of clicking the "YES" checkbox, and the data pops back in along side the data manually input for the "other" spouse filing MFS. 

 

It's an easy fix, but you have to be aware of the potential for an unexpected change to the form and be cautious and check the Form 8958's entries before you submit to the IRS and then have to do a paper amendment to "fix" the problem. 

 

Level 2
Feb 19, 2023 4:56:13 PM

Follow the previous example from the responses above.  The Form 8958 IS available in the 2022 TurboTax software, but you have to use the "FORMS" button on the upper right, near the top of the page to have the program manually insert the Form 8958 as this form is only needed for people who are filing Married-Filing Separate and live in Community Property states (Texas is one of them, along with several others).   

 

Also, a word of caution, if you generate and complete the 8958 form in the forms window and then go back to make changes to other parts of your data, BEFORE you submit your taxes electronically, be sure to PREVIEW the forms and make sure that the 8958 form is there AND that all the data is there. 

 

There are parts of the program that will reset the checkbox near the top of the form back to "NO" in the area for "IMPORTANT:  Are allocated community property amounts reported on this form" (near the top of the form) which will then dropout the primary spouse data from the form automatically inserted by TurboTax, leaving ONLY the data you entered for the secondary spouse, and it also removes the 8958 form from the list of documents to submit for filing.  You just have to click the "YES" checkbox to have the program reinsert the primary spouse's data.  Do a print preview to verify the 8958 form is sandwiched in with you other forms. 

New Member
Feb 26, 2023 4:19:40 PM

I'm having the same exact issue.  The form 5898 is generated and is visible online (desktop version), but when I preview the file using the print option prior to e-file, the form is not included in the output.  

 

Were you able to find a solution?  Thanks in advance.

Level 2
Feb 26, 2023 8:18:51 PM

I was able to electronically file my mother's 2022 taxes without any problems, and the 8958 form was in the "list" available for submission and both print previewed and printed correctly.
 
 
I also use the "desktop" version of TurboTax (Premier 2022).  What I found that had caused the problem with the form 8958 NOT being available (after it had already been manually generated from the "FORMS" list and completed)  was a software setting near the top of the form just below the "Spouse's" name with the phrase:  "IMPORTANT:  Are allocated community property amounts reported on this return?"  There are two check boxes next to the "IMPORTANT" question for "yes" or "no" on the right side of the screen.    The checkbox MUST be set to "YES." 
 
If the checkbox is set to "NO," the TurboTax program "erases" the primary spouse's data from the form 8958 (which is "Column B"), and the TurboTax program also removes the form 8958 from the list of forms available for electronic submission, for "print preview," and the full "print" function.   (If you had already typed in the "Spouse" information -- which is "Column C" numeric data, it will still be in the form.)
 
To verify the program checkbox settings,
1.  Go back to the "FORMS" page (the "forms" button is on the upper right corner of screen)  to where you originally, manually added the Form 8958  to the tax return. 
2. Scroll down the list of forms in the left column under "FORMS IN MY RETURN."  The form 8958 should already be in the list of forms. 
3. Select the form 8958 to have the form displayed in the right window. 
4.  Review the Yes/No check boxes on the right side of the form, located below the spouse/partner's Social Security Number.   Make sure the check box for YES is selected.
5.  Changing the check box to "YES" will automatically insert labels and numeric information from the current 2022 tax file into Column B of form 8958.
6.  All data previously typed in manually in the first, label column and for the secondary spouse/partner in Column C will still be there.  (If you haven't entered the spouse/partner data yet, you need to insert it now to have the form 8958 completed and ready for filing.)
7.  Do a "File," "Save" to try to be sure changes to the form are saved to the file.
8.  Switch back to the "step-by-step" view (link is near the top, right of the window).
 9.  Go back to the "Print Preview" and check to see that the form 8958 is now in your list of forms available and do a "print preview" to be sure the form displays with all the data for both the primary spouse and the secondary spouse/partner.
10.  BEFORE you click the final "submit" to the IRS, I highly recommend that you double check the list of forms and the print preview to be double sure that the form 8958 is still there and previews all data correctly.   (I had had to go back into areas of the tax file to make some changes.  When I went back to the preview list of forms, the form 8958 was "gone" again, so I had to repeat the correction to the check box and reset it back to "YES" a second time -- which is why you need to double-check the list of forms to be absolutely positive that the form 8958 is still there before you SUBMIT the taxes directly to the IRS.)
 
I know this is a long explanation, but I tried to be specific in how to make the correction to get the form 8958 to "re-appear" in the list of forms and have the primary spouse's data re-inserted in the form 8958.
 
Hope this will help.