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Not applicable
posted Feb 10, 2020 8:18:16 PM

F1 OPT to H1B visa status change

Hello,

 

I moved to the U.S in August 2014 on an F-1 visa. My visa status changed from F1-OPT to H1B in December 2019. Can I use Turbotax to file my taxes?

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Expert Alumni
Feb 11, 2020 5:57:13 AM

Yes, you can use TurboTax to prepare your 2019 tax return.  You were exempt from counting US days of presence for 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 (5 years or part years).  You had to start counting US days of presence on January 1, 2019.  

 

As you had more than 183 days of presence in the US in 2019, you are considered a US resident from January 1, 2019.

 

 

Not applicable
Feb 11, 2020 8:21:50 AM

Thank you for your response. I tried filing my tax on TurboTax, and it estimates that I owe around $950, and not getting a refund. Is this because of the Medicare and Social Security tax that I was exempt from on F1 OPT

Expert Alumni
Feb 11, 2020 8:52:14 AM

 

 

No, your tax owed has nothing to do with your FICA taxes.  As an F-1 holder, you are not entitled to pay this tax.  The reason you owe could be you did not have enough income tax withholding to cover your total tax liability.  If you have a Form W-2, check box 2 on the form.  You might need to adjust your Form W-4 for your 2020 taxes.  Without seeing your tax return and information, it is hard to say.  

 

I would suggest you consider our new product / features TurboTaxLive to file your 2019 taxes to have one of our tax professionals to take a look.  In the TurboTax program, once you complete your taxes, before you file, you’ll be given the option for a final review of your return by one of our tax professionals.  After they completed reviewing your return, they’ll inform you of any proposed changes.

 

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Not applicable
Feb 11, 2020 10:11:02 AM

Thank you for your response. My Box 2 shows around $6619.31. Do I need to pay FICA taxes from the day my status changed to H1B last year? Also, can I use TurboTaxLive to fix my W4 issues? 

Expert Alumni
Feb 11, 2020 10:33:13 AM

As you were considered a US tax resident from January 1, 2019, you were responsible for paying FICA taxes during all of calendar year 2019.  You will need to work with your employer to correct this issue. 

 

See the below link for more information.

 

Social Security/Medicare Tax Liability of Foreign Students,etc

 

TurboTaxLive should be able to assist you with correcting your W-4.

Not applicable
Feb 11, 2020 11:03:32 AM

Thank you for your response. It looks like I have paid the FICA taxes from October 2019 when my visa status changed from F1 OPT to H1B. Why do I have to pay for the entire year then? 

 

Expert Alumni
Feb 11, 2020 11:36:13 AM

Thank you for your question.  I do not know if the link to the IRS page worked for you.

 

Please go online and search for the IRS website:   Social Security/Medicare and self-employment Tax Liability of Foreign Students, Scholars, Teachers, Researchers, and Trainees.

 

You will find the following in the IRS article.

 

The IRS has published regulations which stipulate that aliens who arrive in the United States on F,J,M, or Q visas will be assumed to be "NONRESIDENT ALIENS," but only to the extent that the assumption is consistent with the residency rules of IRC section 7701(b). Since the social security/Medicare tax exemption for foreign students, scholars, teachers, researchers, and trainees under the Internal Revenue Code requires that the payee be a "NONRESIDENT ALIEN", then the social security/Medicare tax exemption ceases to exist at the point the payee becomes a "RESIDENT ALIEN" under the residency rules of IRC section 7701(b).

Level 1
Feb 17, 2020 11:07:53 PM

Hey,

 

I am also in same position as for residency status. I was an F1 student from Aug 2014 to Sept 2019, I am exempt from counting US days of presence for 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 (5 years or part years). But I was still in OPT in 2019 till sept 30th 2019 and switched to H1B from oct 1st 2019. Thus my employer did not deduct FICA tax from Jan - Sept 2019.  So should I file as resident with 8843 or file non-resident with 8843 because I was in OPT.

 

Also on IRS website says Student FICA exemption is applicable to Residents under some cases

"This exemption also applies to any period in which the foreign student is in "practical training" allowed by USCIS, as long as the foreign student is still a NONRESIDENT ALIEN under the Internal Revenue Code. Foreign students in F-1, J-1, M-1, Q-1 or Q-2 nonimmigrant status who have been in the United States more than 5 calendar years are RESIDENT ALIENS and are liable for social security/Medicare taxes (unless they are exempt from FICA under the "student FICA exemption" discussed below)."

 

"Also, the Internal Revenue Code provides one exemption from social security/Medicare taxes for foreign students and another exemption from social security/Medicare taxes for all students, American and foreign. This is the so-called "student FICA exemption", and it may operate to exempt a foreign student from social security/Medicare taxes even though the foreign student has already become a RESIDENT ALIEN. For employment which occurs after April 1, 2005, Revenue Procedure 2005-11 provides instructions for determining who is eligible for the "student FICA exemption"

 

Thanks

Expert Alumni
Feb 18, 2020 6:52:58 AM

You will need to file as a US tax resident for 2019 and can use Turbo Tax.  It looks like you would be exempt from FICA/Medicare taxes (if you qualify) even though you are a US resident.  If you qualify this would exempt you from January to October 1, 2019.

 

Student FICA Exception

 

Level 1
Feb 22, 2020 11:55:26 AM

Hey,

 

I have read that "Student FICA Exemption" but I am not sure if I am included in that category or not. I have been working in OPT from April 2017 till Sept 2019 and have not paid FICA tax as OPT is exempt from FICA through form 8843. The form 8843 say 5 calendar year (2014-2018) but asks for reason if we file more than 5 years like statement. I also read that post five years, I have to do a substantial presence test to determine my residency status. If that is case, as I was in OPT from Jan 2019 to sept 2019 should I exempt it in my SPT test, then I become NON-RESIDENT as I was in USA with H1B for only 3 months and all older days are exempt. If we consider all the days from beginning 6th year irrespective of my OPT/F1 visa status I become a RESIDENT. 

 

Can someone please help me clarify what is my correct status for my situation.

 

Thanks 

Expert Alumni
Feb 23, 2020 9:33:38 AM

Unfortunately, we are not experts in student FICA exemption.  Perhaps someone at your school or more research on the web will lead you to the answer you are looking for.  

Level 1
May 12, 2021 4:11:29 PM

Hi, @vishalc711 , were you able to find an answer to your question from 2020?

Similarly to you, tax year 2020 will be my 6th year as a student (2010 and 2011 as J1, while 2017, 2018 and 2019 as F1), hence, I will exceed the 5-year life time rule for students and trainees. On the other hand, there is an exception to the 5-year rule for students as long as they meet the requirements set by IRS here:

 

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/the-closer-connection-exception-to-the-subst...

 

If I have changed status in 2020 from F1 to H-1B on October 1, 2020, can I still file for the exception for the days in the US in 2020 that I was on F1 (January 1 - September 30, 2020), given that I have transitioned away from F1 and I am no longer a student at the end of 2020?

 

If I can exempt the days on F1 I will not meet the substantial presence test and I can file as a nonresident alien. If I can not exempt the days under F1 as I have changed visas in 2020 and I am no longer a student, I have to file as a resident.

 

Thanks   

Expert Alumni
May 12, 2021 7:42:38 PM

According to this IRS link, you are eligible to be an exempt individual for 5 calendar years (2017through 2021) so you can file exempt for 2020, even though it is a part of a year.

Level 1
May 12, 2021 7:49:00 PM

Thanks Dave, the complication is that I was on J1 visa in 2010 and 2011, which years count towards the 5-year life time limit based on my understanding. Do you read it differently?

 

Thanks,

Returning Member
May 13, 2021 12:52:20 PM

it makes no sense. it says my AGI is wrong. it is not

Expert Alumni
May 13, 2021 5:53:00 PM

Try enter zero.  If still being rejected, I will suggest you to print out your tax forms and paper file to the IRS.  To see explanations, click here:  Correct AGI got rejected

 

 

There are three ways you can use to locate your AGI:

 

If you have your last year's tax return, read here: Find your AGI

 

If you used TurboTax online to file, you can access your account here Login and download a copy of your prior year’s 1040 tax return to find your AGI.  Click here for instructions: Prior year's return

 

If you do not have a copy of the tax forms, you may order a transcript from the IRS.  Click here Get  Transcript and select  "Get Transcript Online "  or request a full copy of your past year's tax return.  Click here: https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-4506

 

@MarshallZMiller

 

 

Switching from F-1 visa to J-visa, you will use the Six-year look back rule.  For year 2010, you will look back to 2004-2019 and if you have exempted for two years as a student, you will be considered as a resident in 2020.  Same rule applies to 2021. 

 

@Zion0131

Level 1
May 13, 2021 6:15:44 PM

Hi @LinaJ2020, I am switching from F1 to H-1B, hence, the 6-year look back rule does not apply in my case. I have been on J1 back in 2010/2011. The question is whether I can use the student exception to the 5-year lifetime limit for F1/J1 if I have changed to H-1B on October 2020 and I am no longer a student at the end of the tax year 2020?

 

Thanks,

 

Expert Alumni
May 13, 2021 6:26:19 PM

If you are on the F-1 visa in any part of the year of 2020, you count that as one year towards your 5-year limit. 

 

@Zion0131

Level 1
May 13, 2021 6:41:57 PM

@LinaJ2020 that is understandable, however, I have already been in the use on student or trainee visa for 5 years and 2020 will be my 6th year. There is an exception to the 5-year lifetime rule for students:

 

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/the-closer-connection-exception-to-the-substantial-presence-test-for-foreign-students

 

The questions is whether I can apply and use the exception for students for the days in 2020 I was on F1 if I have changed my F1 (student) visa to H-1B (non-student) on October 2020?

 

Thanks, 

Expert Alumni
May 15, 2021 7:56:27 PM

As this exception's intention is to allow the foreign student to continue to be treated as a nonresident alien, I don't believe year 2020 should be counted.  Please consult a professional for verification.