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Level 2
posted Mar 5, 2022 5:17:49 AM

State fiduciary form error: electronic filing information dcn has too many characters

I am filing an estate return. Submitted 1041 successfully then moved to state (MI).

When I click "transmit return" I get a message that there is one more thing to check

I click "continue" and then get the message "electronic filing information dcn has too many characters" and the general information form comes up. I see nothing in that form to change and don't know what to do.

Instructions say I must e-file and, therefore I am blocked from filing my return.

Can you tell me what I should do?

Thanks.

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Level 15
Mar 5, 2022 7:29:24 AM

See https://www.michigan.gov/documents/taxes/MI-1041Book_744836_7.pdf

 

E-file, it appears, is only mandatory for tax preparers who complete 11 or more fiduciary tax returns.

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Level 15
Mar 5, 2022 7:29:24 AM

See https://www.michigan.gov/documents/taxes/MI-1041Book_744836_7.pdf

 

E-file, it appears, is only mandatory for tax preparers who complete 11 or more fiduciary tax returns.

Level 2
Mar 5, 2022 7:58:42 AM

Thank you for your reply. 

 

In this document (Fiduciary Tax (michigan.gov) it states "To optimize operational efficiency and improve customer service, Treasury mandated e-filing of individual income tax (IIT) returns.  Fiduciary returns are included in the IIT e-file mandate"  This seems to supersede the document you reference.

 

Note: within the TurboTax State Fiduciary return I cannot select file by mail and am told I must efile. This file-by-mail prohibition with the TurboTax seems to confirm the link I provided.

 

And so, I remain blocked.  TurboTax will not let me file by mail and when I go to efile, I get the error mentioned in the original post.  

 

Is there something I can do? Or is this a bug that needs to be fixed?

 

Thanks.

 

 

Level 15
Mar 5, 2022 8:01:39 AM

You can try contacting Support on Monday.

 

What is the TurboTax phone number? (intuit.com)

Level 2
Mar 5, 2022 10:25:14 AM

MY NY STATE ELECTRONIC FILING WILLNOT TRANSMITT.

MESSAGE "DCN "NUMBER HAS TO MANY CHARACTERS.

THIS MUST BE A BUG BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE HAS THE SAME PROBLEM.

PLEASE EMAIL ANSWER TO [email address removed]

Level 15
Mar 5, 2022 10:33:05 AM

Again, you will have to contact Support:

 

What is the TurboTax phone number? (intuit.com)

 

@SFRIEDY 

Level 2
Mar 5, 2022 11:56:37 AM

I agree SFREIEDY that this feels like a bug and thank you for posting. 

 

I am going to heed the advice (what else can I do? ha, ha!) and call support on Monday. I will post back here what I find.

Level 2
Mar 7, 2022 7:22:23 AM

@Anonymous_ and @SFRIEDY  I talked to support for 90 minutes today and this is what I came away with.

  1. Back office says the Michigan form for fiduciary return needs updating but hasn't been updated and this is causing the error
  2. I can wait and see if the form gets updated or print and mail

I am going to contact State of Michigan directly and see if they will accept a mailed-in return given that TT cannot make the e-file work.


Was also provide a link to this thread that talks about state of Michigan form availability.  

 

Seems like Michigan got the cart before the horse on this e-file mandate,

Level 2
Mar 7, 2022 12:03:38 PM

I am in NJ and trying to efile my business return. I also get the error "DCN has too many characters". Help! How do I overcome this?

Level 2
Mar 7, 2022 12:14:08 PM

@jimamster This is strictly my opinion, I have no evidence to back it up:  I believe it's a bug and when enough people report it, it will be corrected. So far, we have MI, NJ and NY reporting the same issue.  

 

I talked to TurboTax support and they said it was a problem with the forms provided by State of Michigan.

 

I talked to the State of Michigan (side note, they were very, very helpful) and they said they would contact TurboTax directly because they (TurboTax) are required to provide e-filing for all products they support for Michigan.

 

In the meantime, I asked the State of Michigan folks if I could file by mail and they said "yes" so I am going to wait a week and see if the issue gets fixed by TurboTax and, if it doesn't, I will e-file.

 

Best of luck to you!

 

Returning Member
Mar 11, 2022 12:53:53 PM

If you are filing your state business taxes separately from your Federal returns(and they have already been accepted), this may be what's causing the issue.

 

In some cases, certain business tax forms filed may not be supported by TurboTax for electronic filing.

Check this link for state forms availability for your specific state and business entity type: https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/forms/help/s[product key removed]ability-table-for-turbotax-business/00/26226

 

Hope this helps! 🙂

Level 1
Mar 11, 2022 3:27:18 PM

I am also having the same problem trying to transmit Form NJ-1065.  This is clearly a bug with the TurboTax State forms for certain states.  I'm on the phone now with TurboTax support as I type this.  I have asked to escalate.

 

I have 3 1065 returns to file in the next couple of days.  If they can't fix it I will ask for a refund of the State download for NJ.

 

 

Level 1
Mar 12, 2022 9:03:09 AM

Having the same issue in DE

Level 1
Mar 12, 2022 6:58:10 PM

I'm also running into the same error with Delaware. I would be very grateful for a rough idea when this apparent bug will be fixed if any support could find the answer

Level 1
Mar 12, 2022 7:05:21 PM

 

I would try calling their support line directly, I don't think that they read these forums.  I was on the phone with them for over an hour, but when they tried to escalate to someone else the call got disconnected. I didn't have the time to call back.

Level 2
Mar 13, 2022 7:30:47 AM

That's good advice @NJ999 .  I was on the phone with support for over an hour, too.  They said it was an issue with the Michigan form.  More research on my part confirmed the original reply to me issue in that I am able to submit my return by mail - which is what I did as I too do not have much more time to try to figure this out.

Level 2
Mar 13, 2022 12:14:44 PM

I was on the phone for over an hour with turbo tax support and got nowhere. The support person was very nice and even had me set up remote access for them. In the end, no progress. Very disappointing. 

Level 1
Mar 14, 2022 6:00:32 PM

Having the same problem with a Massachusetts 1065 partnership return.

Massachusetts requires all partnership returns to be efiled as of this year, but this error in TurboTax means that I cannot efile.

New Member
Mar 14, 2022 9:11:53 PM

Also having the same issue with 1065 for MA right now.  I have two LLC's to file.  One went through tonight while the other had the DCN error message.  Main difference between the two was the LLC that went through has been filed in previous years.  The one with the error message was set up in 2021 and filing for the first time.  Connection ?  Do not know....

Level 2
Mar 16, 2022 7:45:05 AM

My advice is to 

  1. File by mail if you can 
  2.  If you can't file by mail, contact someone at your state treasury office and explain the situation and request permission to file by mail - I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly they responded and how helpful they were here in Michigan.
    1. Michigan requires tax software companies to provide e-filing for all state forms. When I contacted Michigan about, they said they would contact TurboTax directly and let them know they needed to fix the situation. 
  3. At the same time talk to TurboTax support again and mention that this is not an isolated issue and they may want to spend some time on it instead of deflecting 🙂 The more people that call the more likely they are to do something I suppose.

I ended up filing by mail. My state treasury office confirmed that I was eligible anyhow without special permission.  I am not sure if they contacted TurboTax because I submitted by mail and have not returned to the software.


Good luck everyone! 

Level 2
Mar 20, 2022 12:30:22 PM

I called TurboTax support today. They sent me this link showing they are working on the dcn issue. You can sign up for status updates.

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/taxation/help/why-am-i-getting-a-message-that-my-dcn-has-too-many-characters/00/2584210

 

New Member
Apr 16, 2022 11:18:17 AM

Phone support is not helpful. They just route you through a circular automated bot loop

New Member
Apr 16, 2022 11:19:46 AM

I am running into the same issue with Texas state filing

Level 1
Apr 18, 2022 8:06:47 AM

Despite what the Turbotax rep says, you can't file your corporate taxes by mail in NJ. You can, however, file directly with the state at  https://www.njportal.com/Taxation/CBT/. Of course, you have to manually enter in all the data. Turbotax should also refund the $55 they charged for software that doesn't work.

Returning Member
Apr 18, 2022 11:48:08 AM

I am having same issue trying to efile Louisiana partnership.  I really have no choice but to mail it in even though it is not allowed.  TT dropped the ball big time this year.