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Level 1
posted Jan 31, 2021 10:25:28 AM

Program is making me file a 8889-T form for high deductible health plan (HDHP) because I have an HSA, but I did not have a HDHP

I cannot complete my file because there is one error in my Federal tax return. I have in Box 12 of my W-2 a "W" which indicates I have a HSA. I did not have a HDHP coverage for my health insurance, so I do not have an entry for the 8889-T form. What am I supposed to do to complete this? I tried deleting the form and instead, the software automatically selects the form to fill out for me. 

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Expert Alumni
Feb 1, 2021 10:37:15 AM

Since you had a Code W in Box 12 on your W-2, you received a pre-tax deduction for your HSA.

 

Since you didn't have an HDHP health plan, you won't be able to get the deduction for your HSA contribution.

 

The Form 8889-T is generated because of the HSA on your W-2. You can still use your HSA for Medical Expenses, you just can't deduct it. You may have an 'excess contribution' which you can withdraw by April 15, 2021. 

 

Click this link for more info on Form 8889-T.  TurboTax will fill out the form for you.  You may want to go through the HSA section again to check your entries. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Returning Member
Mar 7, 2021 8:07:33 AM

I have the same situation, I was on a HDHP in 2019 and had an HSA.  For 2020 however I am no longer on a HDHP but my employer made a contribution to my HSA so TurboTax is having me complete the 8889-T.  Except I can't get past an error on the form, specifically it's line 1 where it asks to check the HDHP coverage I had in 2020 and the only options are Self or Family.  I wasn't on a HDHP for 2020 and there is not a None option.  I am stuck at this step and cannot continue filing my taxes.  Help!!

Expert Alumni
Mar 7, 2021 9:35:29 AM

A code W in box 12 of a W-2 reported a pre-tax deduction for your Health Savings Account.

 

IRS Form 8889 determines whether you qualify for the pre-tax deduction.

 

If you are not able to click Yes, I was covered by an HDHP during at least one month during 2020, you may have excess contributions which you can withdraw by April 15.

 

Is this the error message that you are receiving?

 

See also this TurboTax Help.

 

 

Returning Member
Mar 7, 2021 10:28:58 AM

Attached is a screenshot of the error message.  I didn't have a HDHP for 2020 so I don't think I should select that I did.

Expert Alumni
Mar 7, 2021 11:18:23 AM

To be eligible to contribute to an Health Savings Account in 2020, you:

  • Must have been covered by a high-deductible health plan (HDHP);
  • Did not have Medicare or other secondary health insurance policy; and
  • Were not eligible to be claimed as a dependent on another return, no matter if you were claimed or not.

Do you have a code W in box 12 of a W-2?  If so, it reported a pre-tax deduction for a Health Savings Account.   

 

It sounds like that at the screen Were you covered by a High Deductible Health Plan (HDHP) in 2020?, you need to select No I did not have coverage.

 

The software will likely conclude that you have an excess contribution that may be:

  • Withdrawn in part by April 15,
  • Withdrawn in full by April 15, or
  • Subject to an extra tax of 6%.

 

 

Returning Member
Mar 7, 2021 11:38:59 AM

Yes I do have a W on my W-2 in box 12 which shows the value my employer contributed to my HSA.  I did also select "No, I did not have coverage" to the question of was I covered by a HDHP in 2020.  It then tells me that I have an excess contribution and I select that I'll withdraw the excess employer contributions by April 15, 2021.  

 

Still when I get to the end of my taxes and do the Smart Check, I get that error from my previous post asking me to select what HDHP coverage I had in 2020.  It looks like it is forcing this question because line 1 on the 8889-T form requires an answer, screen shot of the 8889-T form below:

Returning Member
Mar 8, 2021 3:29:37 PM

So should I ignore the Smart Check error above and just leave question 1 blank on the 8889-T form?

Expert Alumni
Mar 8, 2021 7:52:58 PM

@aneckar

 

You have two choices:

 

1. Ask your employer if they will take back the contribution for 202 when they knew that you were not eligible. This is one case in which the IRS will allow the employer to withdraw funds from your HSA. Then the employer owes you a corrected W-2, showing no code W entry in box 12 on the W-2. Without that code W entry, TurboTax won't trigger the 8889.

 

-- or --

 

2. Let TurboTax tell you about the excess contribution; call the HSA custodian to withdraw the excess (they will calculate any earnings and add them to the check they send you); early next year you will receive a 1099-SA so that the earnings can be taxed next year.

 

Then, to bypass the Smart Check error, go into Forms mode (I assume you have the CD/download software), and check the Self box on line 1. But you will object that you didn't have any HDHP coverage in 2020 - that's true, but it won't matter.

 

On line 3 on the 8889, you are showing no HDHP coverage for any month, so this is correct. You are making this line one entry just to get past the error check in TurboTax. Your 8889 will be substantially correct.

 

Make a note to your self of what I asked you to do and stick it in your permanent tax file, in the very unlikely case that anyone ever asks.

Returning Member
Mar 20, 2021 7:33:46 AM

Thank you for the response.  I'm going through option 2 as suggested but just want to confirm that selecting None for the months on line 3 of the 8889 won't set off any red flags because the instructions say to select None if you were covered by Medicare for those months.  Screenshot below for reference:

Expert Alumni
Mar 22, 2021 12:08:48 PM

Yes, on Line 3, None is the right answer if you did not have Self-only or Family HDHP coverage for that month. NONE basically means No valid HDHP coverage, and covers Medicare, no coverage, HDHP with conflicting coverage, and so on.

 

In the Step-by-step HSA interview did you see the question "Did you have HDHP coverage for any month in 2020? (or however it is phrased)?" You should have answered No. This should have marked each month as NONE for you already.

 

Well, no matter, NONE is what you want on line 3 for each month.

 

@aneckar

 

New Member
Mar 28, 2021 7:03:51 PM

I am trying to finish up my taxes and continue to get an error about a 8889-T form that I don't have. I do have a 1095-C form but I don't know where to put that info. I don't have a HDHP and turbo tax keeps asking if I do. Im not sure what to do 

Expert Alumni
Mar 29, 2021 10:32:04 AM

You do not have to enter a 1095-C in TurboTax.

 

Do you have a W-2 with a code W in box 12 reported a pre-tax deduction for your Health Savings Account?

 

IRS Form 8889 determines whether you qualify for the pre-tax deduction.

 

If you are not able to click Yes, I was covered by an HDHP during at least one month during 2020, you may have excess contributions which you can withdraw by April 15.

 

Is this the error message that you are receiving?


 

New Member
May 6, 2021 7:54:44 PM

I also get the error above for no valid reason.  I did NOT have a W in box 12 of any W-2s.  I did not give any indication that I had HDHP coverage.  I have had employer provided coverage for the last 10 years.  I cannot find anything wrong with my TurboTax questions that forces me down this invalid path.  I truly think this is an issue with the TurboTax software.  

Expert Alumni
May 10, 2021 8:01:05 AM

Please provide additional details about the error you are seeing.  

 

@kplawe

New Member
Jan 24, 2022 3:26:21 PM

Hi All—

 

My health insurance (Anthem/Blue Cross PPO) offers a HSA that is also tax-free, and the W code in Box 12 would back that up. But since the PPO’s conditions don’t satisfy those of a HDHP (the out of pocket in-network expenses greatly exceed $7k) I couldn’t have had one.

 

I get that same error about HDHP coverage & it prevents me from e-filing. Any help is appreciated!

Expert Alumni
Jan 24, 2022 3:53:50 PM

Did Anthem/Blue Cross identify the policy that you have as an HDHP? A PPO can be an HDHP. Because of the complexity of the conditions to be an HDHP, I don't recommend taxpayers try to figure this out in their own, but instead to ask the insurance company, because they know if their plan qualifies as an HDHP or not.

 

Are you saying that you made contributions to an HSA through your employer such that there is an entry on your W-2 in box 12 with a code of W? And in the HSA interview, you said that you did not have HDHP coverage, so that the entire contribution (code W amount) was determined to be excess?

 

And I don't know why even having excess contributions would prevent you from e-filing. Was there an error message here when you tried?

Returning Member
Mar 1, 2022 7:00:05 AM

A question regarding line 3 of 8889. If None is selected for each month, line 3 of form 8889 is NOT filled with any number (e.g. 0). Is it correct?

Expert Alumni
Mar 1, 2022 11:14:38 AM

Yes, Line 3 on the 8889 is the starting point for calculating your annual HSA contribution limit. If None is selected for each month in the interview, then your annual HSA contribution limit would start as zero.

Returning Member
Mar 1, 2022 12:06:19 PM

Thanks. If it is 0, it is strange that turbotax does not put 0 on line 3 of 8889. 

Expert Alumni
Mar 1, 2022 1:51:58 PM

In this case, blank is the same as zero. There is no particular instruction in form 8889 to do it one way or the other.

 

@ljtt666666

Level 1
Mar 4, 2022 5:49:30 AM

HSA contribution reported on W-2 12 code W. Due to ineligible, withdraw the contribution through reversal (kind of excess contribution withdraw) and returned to me. Company does NOT correct the W-2 (is it right?). Turbotax said that it is excess contribution and I selected "all are withdraw before deadline". Turbotax add it on line 8e (taxable HSA distribution) of schedule 1. Is there any problem? Thanks.

Expert Alumni
Mar 4, 2022 6:16:44 AM

It depends. Because the income was pulled pre-tax for the high deductible health plan, it became taxable income when it was returned to you. If they did not withhold any taxes at the time of the return, which would need to be documented on your Form W-2, then you should not need to have a corrected form.

Excess or returned funds from your HSA should indeed appear on your Schedule 1, line 8e. To be sure that you were not accessed a penalty during this process when you complete your return and print or save a copy before filing, please check Schedule 2, lines c and d. This will show any penalties added to your tax liability, and the details will be in  Form 8889 Health Saving Accounts.

Level 1
Mar 4, 2022 6:29:54 AM

There is no penalty in schedule 2 and 8889. The withdrawal was directly back to me. NO tax withhold by the company. Since the contribution is NOT included in wages, is there any concern related to payroll tax (social security and medicare)? Thanks.

Expert Alumni
Mar 4, 2022 1:03:35 PM

No, because it is being treated as supplemental income, it will be subject to federal income taxes but not social security and medicare. It is essentially being handled as a bonus and appearing in Schedule 1.