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Level 2
posted Feb 23, 2020 11:36:49 AM

What should I do if I do not have an FEIN. System is asking for FEIN for a foreign bank account for a 1099-int.

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Expert Alumni
Feb 23, 2020 3:20:35 PM

Will you be able to contact the bank?  If you don't have the FEIN, you would need to paper-file your return, unfortunately.  

 

In order to e-file, the IRS requires a valid employer identification number.  If you do not have one, you would have to print out your tax forms and submit them by mail.

Level 2
Feb 23, 2020 3:38:59 PM

Was this not a requirement last year. Do not remember having this issue last year?

Expert Alumni
Feb 24, 2020 9:11:17 AM

Let's try this workaround:  Enter 9's as the FEIN.  

 

Let me know if it works. 

Level 2
Feb 24, 2020 12:31:03 PM

I did try this out and it did not work. It accepts the input in the 1099-int section but on final review it pops this it up again - this time it brings up a worksheet where it say FEIN is invalid in both cases - ie all zeros or all 9s

Expert Alumni
Feb 24, 2020 12:57:02 PM

You can enter the foreign bank account interest as miscellaneous income instead of interest income.

  1. Open your return in TurboTax
  2. Click on Wages & Income
  3. Scroll down to All Income
  4. Scroll down to Less Common Income
  5. Scroll down to Miscellaneous Income, 1099-A, 1099-C
  6. Click start
  7. Scroll down to Other reportable income
  8. Answer yes
  9. Enter interest description and amount

 

 

 

Level 2
Feb 25, 2020 6:48:55 PM

I did try that out, but it does not have any provision for adding the foreign interest component. so how does one get the credit?

Level 15
Feb 25, 2020 6:55:51 PM

Wait a minute ... you do not need an EIN to enter interest ... in the interest section simply say you will enter the info yourself then do so on the next screen.  

Level 2
Feb 25, 2020 7:59:56 PM

I was trying to enter it into the Other reportable income section. 

Here there is only a provision to enter income. 

When I enter it in 1099-Int. I can enter both foreing income and foreign tax paid. While it allows this during entry with out FEIN, during review it does not allow to proceed with out FEIN

Level 15
Feb 26, 2020 2:11:58 PM

Use this website to contact TurboTax support for this situation:

https://support.turbotax.intuit.com/contact/

Level 2
Feb 29, 2020 8:38:26 AM

Contacted TurboTax by phone.

The lady agreed this is a new issue and asked me to file the returns by postal mail.

Looks like we would never be able to e-File again because of this new validation by TurboTax.

Hope TurboTax will fix this, since foreign bank can never have a "Federal ID" number, which are used to identify Banks in USA only.

Also, since if the IRS can accept the returns by postal mail, they should not have issue when we do the same by e-filing. So this definitely looks more like a TurboTax issue rather than an IRS requirement.

Or simply TurboTax should give a new option where we can add Foreign Bank interest income.

Level 15
Feb 29, 2020 8:41:34 AM


@Vinp wrote:

Contacted TurboTax by phone.

The lady agreed this is a new issue and asked me to file the returns by postal mail.

Looks like we would never be able to e-File again because of this new validation by TurboTax.

Hope TurboTax will fix this, since foreign bank can never have a "Federal ID" number, which are used to identify Banks in USA only.

Also, since if the IRS can accept the returns by postal mail, they should not have issue when we do the same by e-filing. Or simply give a new option where we can add Foreign Bank interest income.


A FEIN is not required on a Form 1099-INT for e-filing a tax return.  Ignore the

Review

and Continue to the File section to e-file.

Level 2
Feb 29, 2020 8:45:01 AM

Can confirm, I was able to e-file by ignoring the Review.  But isn't this review the benefit of paying for this software/service?  Perhaps I'll fill in the forms manually next year and save $80. 

Level 2
Feb 29, 2020 8:45:10 AM

Yes. FEIN should ideally not be a requirement and this exactly what this post is all about.

Since TurboTax for some reason has started a new validation at the final stage of review, where it jumps back to the point where it asks us to enter a VALID FEIN number.

It just does not allow us to proceed to e-File. No way to skip it.

The lady executive took a screen sharing session with me and confirmed that I would have to file by postal mail this time, because of the NEW issue.

Level 2
Feb 29, 2020 8:48:23 AM

@quite98, can you please give me the steps on how to ignore the Review and proceed to e-File?

I was not able to do it. Tried all the steps. Also the Turbo Tax executive who came over the phone gave up and asked me to file by postal mail.

Kindly let us know if there is any way to bypass the Review stage where it insists on entering a VALID FEIN.

The review process starts again, if we try to e-File.

Don't want to take chances with IRS by entering wrong FEIN number. Any suggestion would be highly appreciated.

Level 2
Feb 29, 2020 8:58:54 AM

To be honest, I'm not sure.  I know that at one point I tried a suggestion in another post from an Intuit employee to report the interest as misc income, but that seemed wrong so I deleted that and re-added the INT-1099 again.  I'm using the online version of the software if that makes a difference.  

Level 2
Feb 29, 2020 9:00:29 AM

Oh one additional point - the FEIN does not appear anywhere in the Schedule B (even for US accounts). So this wouldn't be a problem for the IRS, just for Turbo Tax's own validation.

Level 15
Feb 29, 2020 9:05:26 AM


@Vinp wrote:

Yes. FEIN should ideally not be a requirement and this exactly what this post is all about.

Since TurboTax for some reason has started a new validation at the final stage of review, where it jumps back to the point where it asks us to enter a VALID FEIN number.

It just does not allow us to proceed to e-File. No way to skip it.

The lady executive took a screen sharing session with me and confirmed that I would have to file by postal mail this time, because of the NEW issue.


 

 

 

 

Level 2
Feb 29, 2020 11:53:31 AM

@DoninGA, appreciate your assistance. But unfortunately it doesn't work.

TurboTax comes back to that same page, even if we directly try to e-File.

Unable to e-File. Asks for FEIN for foreign bank

Level 15
Feb 29, 2020 12:45:27 PM

@Vinp On your Form 1099-INT do you have any boxes 2 thru 13 entered with an amount or box 14 with a Tax-exempt and tax credit bond CUSIP number?

 

If you are only reporting interest in Box 1 then there should be no reason to have FEIN entered or prevent you from e-filing.

 

You may want to delete the 1099-INT and try again.

Level 2
Feb 29, 2020 4:45:59 PM

Hi @DoninGA ,

Thank you very much for your continuous help.

I finally managed to e-File.

The change I made this time is, I had the FEIN number mentioned as 00-000000. I just deleted that info and left it Blank.

And that helped. So looks like NOTHING is better than something for FEIN.

Highly appreciate your help.

For anybody else facing the same issue, my only suggestion is Leave that box BLANK by deleting anything that's there in the box by default.

 

Level 2
Mar 1, 2020 1:18:03 PM

I did try this today - at least during entry of the 1099-int information - it flagged the empty field and said it needed a review. When I left it blank it did not accept it. So I entered 0000000 and it got flagged during federal review. 

During the review it brought me to the 1099-Int worksheet -see below. I deleted and saved. At this stage it added it back. So looks like no way to move forward without and FEIN.

Just to check I did the entries in H&R block online and they do not even ask for that information!!!

 

Level 15
Mar 1, 2020 4:06:30 PM

@sanjaykarve 

 

To enter simple bank interest you are NOT in the right place ... DELETE what you entered and try again in the interest section ...  all you have to do is enter a payer name and the amount ... you never need an EIN...

 

 

 

Level 2
Mar 2, 2020 12:44:14 PM

i tried this and it always came back to the same review point. So appeared as if I could not do it. I finally filed using H&R Block - that software did not even ask for that data for any 1099-INT.

 

 

Level 2
Mar 2, 2020 12:45:51 PM

latest update - got message that both federal and state returns were accepted