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Returning Member
posted Jan 20, 2023 8:38:14 AM

Net operating loss (NOL) carryover

I've used Turbotax Deluxe for many years and am using it for my 2022 return. Here's my question:

If I have a large loss on line 8 (1040SR) which causes the AGI, line 11, to be negative, will Turbotax automatically carry forward the 2022 negative AGI as a NOL (Schedule 1 line 8a) on my 2023 return (assuming schedule 1 doesn't change and using Turbotax Deluxe for 2023)?? 

If not, is there a way to manually enter the 2022 negative AGI as a NOL on the 2023 return??

Thanks, Nick

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Level 15
Jan 20, 2023 8:45:01 AM

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Level 15
Jan 20, 2023 8:45:01 AM

Returning Member
Jan 20, 2023 9:14:33 AM

Thanks for the quick reply. I looked for the Turbotax entry you displayed in your reply and I can't find it in Turbotax Deluxe. So how will I be able to claim this NOL carryover in 2023?? Do I need a different version of Turbotax??

Thanks, Nick

Level 15
Jan 20, 2023 9:18:29 AM

to calculate use schedule A of form 1045. read the instructions because business income and losses get entered on certain lines while nonbusiness income and deductions get entered on other lines.  the short version. your NOL is the excess of business losses over business income reduced by the excess, if any, of nonbusiness income over nonbusiness deductions.

https://www.irs.gov/site-index-search?search=1045&field_pup_historical_1=1&field_pup_historical=1 

 

Level 15
Jan 20, 2023 9:20:29 AM


Expert Alumni
Jan 20, 2023 10:16:35 AM

TurboTax Deluxe online does have a place for a net operating loss carryforward.

 

To enter your 2021 NOL carryforward:
 

  1. Type net operating loss in Search
  2. Select Jump to net operating loss

As Champs @Anonymous_ and @Mike9241 say, TurboTax does not calculate a NOL carryforward, so you will have to use Schedule A of Form 1045 to figure your carryforward each year.

 

@nmdude

 

Returning Member
Jan 20, 2023 8:05:45 PM

Thanks for the feedback. I'm using Turbotax CD (not online) but I did a search for "net operating loss" as you suggested and the CD version worked just as you described and I was able to manually enter a NOL value and explanation. So thanks a lot. I will definitely make a note of this process.

Thanks, Nick

New Member
Jan 22, 2023 9:09:17 AM

I am using TurboTax Deluxe download edition for my 2022 taxes. I cannot access the page that Ernie SO referenced when typing in Net Operating Loss in the search ("Mm, sorry., this is outside my expertise.) I have a NOL carryover (individual) that I need to enter on Line 8A of Schedule 1. It won't let me enter it manually. Do I need a different version of TurboTax to be able to do this?

New Member
Jan 22, 2023 10:16:54 AM

Success! TurboTax Deluxe - Wages & Income - Business Items - Business Deductions and Credits - Net Operating Loss. Put in your NOL and AMT NOL from the previous tax return (enter as a positive number) and it will go directly to Line 8a in Schedule 1 of the 2022 tax year.

New Member
Feb 3, 2023 12:28:42 PM

If I do not deed 100% of the carryover to reduce my taxes, can I use only a portion and then use the balance in another year?

Expert Alumni
Feb 4, 2023 10:46:06 AM

Yes, the un-used NOL can be carried forward indefinitely. 

New Member
Nov 25, 2023 9:19:14 PM

Hello mpholland - I found your response when I was searching for how to enter my NOL carryover into TurboTax 2023.   I have the same edition (deluxe, personal + business, etc) that you refer to in 2022.   However, I cannot find the sections (and names) you mentioned in your post.  Can you please share exactly how you entered your NOL carryover with me?   Or give me more detail on how you entered it?   Thank you!

 

Level 2
Mar 18, 2024 6:16:35 PM

I have a large NOL that I'm carrying from a past year. When I manually enter the amount on Sch 1, 8a my income goes to a large negative number since I don't have income that needs off-setting this year. Should I only enter NOL in Sch 1, 8a that I want to apply for the current tax year? e.g. If I have $700,000 NOL and $200,000 income next year, should I only enter the portion of my $700,000 NOL in Sch 1, 8a that I want to apply in that year?

Level 15
Mar 18, 2024 6:26:23 PM

Expert Alumni
Mar 18, 2024 6:28:25 PM

You do need to take as much NOL as possible, you can't "save" any for next year. 

However what isn't used this year can get carried forward. 

You can enter it all and let the program figure it out. 

Level 2
Mar 18, 2024 6:29:18 PM

Is there a place in TurboTax that shows how much is getting applied against current income in the current year?

Expert Alumni
Mar 18, 2024 6:35:31 PM

Schedule 1 line 8a

Level 2
Mar 18, 2024 6:46:19 PM

I entered the full NOL on the Federal Carryover Worksheet 14a and TurboTax then populated Sch 1, 8a with the full amount. 

 

Where should I have entered the full NOL amount?

Expert Alumni
Mar 19, 2024 7:03:23 PM

In TurboTax Home and Business it's located under the Business tab

Less Common Business Situations

Net operating Loss/QBI

 

For the other TurboTax products, it is located under

Wages & Income

Investment Income

Capital Loss Carryover 

Level 15
Mar 19, 2024 9:01:03 PM

Level 2
Mar 20, 2024 10:33:56 AM

Right ... the capital loss carryover section does not seem to cover NOL amounts.  

 

Does entering the full NOL amount on the Federal Carryover Worksheet 14a sound right?

Level 15
Mar 20, 2024 10:41:41 AM

Level 2
Mar 20, 2024 10:52:55 AM

I'm using Mac Desktop Deluxe.

 

If I upgrade to Home & Business (desktop), will TurboTax carry the correct amount over to the 1040? By entering my total NOL in the Federal Carryover Worksheet 14a in the Deluxe version I am currently ending up with that whole amount on 1040 line 8, driving my income to a large negative number. Is that large negative number the correct behavior, or should only a portion of my total NOL show up on my 1040 so as to bring my tax liability to zero?  

Level 15
Mar 20, 2024 12:21:03 PM

Level 2
Mar 20, 2024 12:39:43 PM

Ok, so let the large negative number flow thru to my 1040 Adjusted Gross Income, but calculate my NOL carryover to 2024 manually. Got it!

 

Thanks so much! 🙂