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Level 3
posted Feb 19, 2022 4:13:17 PM

2021 Form 1116 Schedule B (carryovers) can't efile

I'm getting a message that TT doesn't support e-filing because I have a value on line 10 of Form 1116, carryover of foreign taxes from Schedule B. A screenshot of the actual message is below.

 

Is this expected to change?  In other words, will TT be supporting e-filing in this case when it releases Form 1116, now scheduled for March 3?

 

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24 Replies
Expert Alumni
Feb 19, 2022 4:49:07 PM

Possibly. The foreign tax credit section is not final in TurboTax. The expected date is March 3. Form 1116 Schedule B is a brand new form for 2021.

 

Schedule B is used to "reconcile your prior year foreign tax carryover with your current year foreign tax carryover. Taxpayers are therefore reporting running balances of their foreign tax carryovers showing all activity since the filing of their prior year income tax return."

 

For the latest update see IRS forms availability table for TurboTax individual (personal) tax products.

Level 3
Feb 20, 2022 4:47:31 AM

"Possibly" is hardly a reassuring answer.

 

If Turbotax is not going to support Form 1116 for e-filing, it should not advertise that it supports 1116 (https://turbotax.intuit.com/personal-taxes/irs-forms/) and that it supports e-filing. 

Level 15
Feb 20, 2022 4:52:53 AM


@Payer06 wrote:

"Possibly" is hardly a reassuring answer.

 

If Turbotax is not going to support Form 1116 for e-filing, it should not advertise that it supports 1116 (https://turbotax.intuit.com/personal-taxes/irs-forms/) and that it supports e-filing. 


Form 1116, Foreign Tax Credit for tax year 2021 is estimated to be finalized and available for

E-Filing

in TurboTax on 03/03/2022

Go to this TurboTax website for IRS forms availability - https://care-cdn.prodsupportsite.a.intuit.com/forms-availability/turbotax_fed_online_individual.html

Level 3
Feb 20, 2022 6:25:12 AM

See the reply from the Employee Tax Expert above.  The answer was "possibly" not "yes", his reply links the same page as you link. 

 

How do you explain the screenshot from Turbotax I posted? I'm current on updates.

Level 15
Feb 20, 2022 6:33:05 AM


@Payer06 wrote:

See the reply from the Employee Tax Expert above.  The answer was "possibly" not "yes", his reply links the same page as you link. 

 

How do you explain the screenshot from Turbotax I posted? I'm current on updates.


The link you posted shows the forms and schedules supported when using the TurboTax CD/Download editions.  It does not indicate one way or the other whether those forms and schedules can be e-filed.

 

What I posted is the IRS Forms availability and also shows if the form or schedule is supported for printing and/or e-filing.  As shown in the link the Form 1116 is both supported for printing and e-filing - https://care-cdn.prodsupportsite.a.intuit.com/forms-availability/turbotax_fed_online_individual.html

 

Also, the Form 1116 has always been supported for e-filing for at least the last 20 years that I am aware of.

Level 3
Feb 25, 2022 9:26:41 AM

https://care-cdn.prodsupportsite.a.intuit.com/forms-availability/turbotax_fed_online_individual.html now says 1116 Sch B will not be supported for e-filing.  It feels very bait and switch that this only shows up now, especially since it had been saying 1116 was supported for e-filing and it has been supported for e-filing for many years.

Level 15
Feb 25, 2022 9:32:21 AM


@Payer06 wrote:

https://care-cdn.prodsupportsite.a.intuit.com/forms-availability/turbotax_fed_online_individual.html now says 1116 Sch B will not be supported for e-filing.  It feels very bait and switch that this only shows up now, especially since it had been saying 1116 was supported for e-filing and it has been supported for e-filing for many years.


Form 1116 Schedule B Foreign Tax Carryover Reconciliation Schedule is new for tax year 2021 so has never been available for e-filing.

Form 1116, Foreign Tax Credit for tax year 2021 is still estimated to be available on 03/03/2022

Level 3
Feb 25, 2022 11:37:42 AM

Let’s put it a different way: TurboTax has historically supported E-filing when customers had foreign tax credit carryovers.  Now, TurboTax will not support that. There is a $10 online tax program that will e-file tax returns when a person has foreign tax credit carryovers. Surely Intuit could restore this functionality if it wanted to. 

Level 4
Feb 25, 2022 1:34:10 PM

Are you referring to OLT.com, taxachusetts?

 

Have you  used it or tried it out?

 

If so, could you please post your impressions here. I am looking for a cost effective alternative to Intuit.

Level 3
Feb 25, 2022 2:09:22 PM

Yes, OLT.com. I have not used it. In the Bogleheads.org forums, folks who have used it because of the Form 1116 Schedule B issue with TurboTax have been positive about their experiences.

Level 3
Feb 25, 2022 5:32:43 PM

This is very frustrating. I've already paid TurboTax for 2021 and now I'm not sure if I can even use it. I have an 1116 carryover from 2020.

 

At no point, before or after TurboTax asked for my money, did it tell me about the limitation. I filed with TurboTax last year, so you can't say you didn't know.

Level 3
Feb 26, 2022 3:06:22 AM

@rifi I'm trying OLT.  I filled out my information and it came up with the same results as turbotax.  It's a bit of a transition if you're used to TT, but not bad.

 

Sch B to 1116 is trivial.  Transferring the numbers from TT's explanation statement took a minute or two.

 

E-filing is very important to me, especially given the current IRS situation with processing paper returns.

Level 2
Feb 26, 2022 9:06:33 AM

Does anyone know if you can skip a year with a Foreign Tax Credit Carryover?  For example, I have a 2020 carryover (minimal amount) that I've read you can use up to 10 years. Is it possible to ignore it for the 2021 return and then show it for the 2022 return?  Just trying to figure out a workaround to this form debacle.

Level 3
Feb 26, 2022 9:10:25 AM

If the question is: "what can I get away with?" then I can't say. But the instructions for this new Schedule B says that you have to file it if you had prior-year carryovers or will generate a carryover this year.

 

Also, if TurboTax knows that you have a prior-year carryover, it might not give you the option of e-filing while omitting Schedule B.

 

Level 2
Feb 26, 2022 9:22:06 AM

Nah, not trying to get away with anything; just trying to understand the rule.  Thanks for your help.  Have to decide if it's worth sacrificing a minimal credit and e-filing or keeping the credit and using snail mail.  This is my first time using Turbotax for my personal returns and I'm not pleased.....

Level 3
Feb 26, 2022 9:22:51 AM

I've used TurboTax many times. I'm never pleased. 😎

Level 3
Feb 27, 2022 10:34:43 PM

I don't think you can skip taking it, but what you could try doing is efile without it, and then file an amended return on paper to take the credit carryover.  Since the IRS backlog of unprocessed paper returns is so large, I feel it is better to have an amended return stuck in the backlog than an original return.  I may have to do this with a 1041 Trust return, since it appears that Turbotax isn't planning to add the 1116 Schedule B to Turbotax Business.

Level 3
Mar 3, 2022 6:19:46 AM

3/3/22 update says form will be available in future update when I run a review of my taxes. However form availability on tt website says paper form avail on 3/31 and unsupported on efile, so still not sure which answer is correct

Level 2
Mar 3, 2022 6:27:47 AM

I am also interested in a workaround.  Wondering if there is a way to e-file without the form and then just mail it in as a "missing form" once it becomes available on 3/31.

Level 3
Mar 3, 2022 7:06:51 AM

Waited till today (3/3/2022) for the update to Form 1116 only to find that Schedule B is not there and I have no choice but to file by mail.  


 

Per TurboTax, New York State require e-filing which cannot be done either because the Federal tax filing cannot be e-filed.

Form 1116 Schedule B is available on the IRS website... why can't TurboTax go that extra step? 

 

 

Level 3
Mar 3, 2022 7:16:03 AM

Looked back at the forms availability list and this is what shows:

 

It will be available for Print on 03/31/2022 but e-file will be unsupported.

Level 4
Mar 3, 2022 7:57:09 AM

This is complete BS.  I've been done, waiting for 3/3 to file, and now I can't e-file at all, I have to wait for 3/31 to paper file?  What is the holdup here? Yeah, I think I'm going to go ahead and file and amend it later.  Thanks TT!

Level 2
Mar 3, 2022 8:28:13 AM

I'm going to try @Taxachusetts suggestion and use OLT.com.  I'd rather not deal with an amended return.  I've also been waiting for 1116 to be released only to find out I need Schedule B and they are not supporting online filing.

 

I've been using TT for over 20 years now.  Never been that happy with them since I found out about their lobbying efforts to complicate online filing and their efforts to hide the free file option.  I guess this is the straw.

Level 1
Mar 3, 2022 8:52:26 AM

I have also been waiting for today to finally finish my taxes and efile. I have been a happy user of Turbo Tax for years and find this wait till the end of the month unacceptable. Get it together TurboTax. If you can get Form 1116 out today you should have all supporting schedules as well.