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posted Feb 2, 2020 2:23:50 PM

Refund Decreased when I enter my 1099R

Why did my refund decrease when I entered my 1099R?

I rolled it over to a Roth IRA I didn't see any of that money. I'm just a little confused and I haven't filed yet because that seems wrong.  

 

I noticed when I fill out all the information that matches the 1099R it asks me the following questions. (Note Distribution code is G)

Of course, when I answer truthfully, that it is reported and it did get rolled over to a Roth. The refund drops significantly. 

I also noticed that if I change the Distribution code from G to H(This code just makes more sense to me) then it does not drop my refund, and doesn't ask me the questions above. 

 

I really don't know what to do. 

Do I need to report the rollover?

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Intuit Alumni
Feb 2, 2020 2:57:19 PM

Yes.  You need to report the Rollover exactly as it was reported to you on the 1099R.

 

If it was rolled over from a pre-tax account (ie - a regular 401k that is holding "pre-tax" funds) you will owe tax when it is rolled over to a Roth IRA.

 

Please see the attached FAQ from IRS:  Rollovers FAQ

 

Please note at the bottom of this FAQ:  A conversion to a Roth IRA results in taxation of any untaxed amounts in the traditional IRA. The conversion is reported on Form 8606.....

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Level 15
Feb 2, 2020 2:41:20 PM

Was the 401(k) a traditional 401(k) or a 401(k) Roth (designated Roth)?

 

A code "H" is for a 401(k) *Roth*  (designated Roth) rollover to a Roth IRA which would not be taxable since the money was already after-tax money in the designated Roth.

 

A code "G" signifies a regular 401(k)  direct rollover of before-tax money.   If converted to a Roth IRA then unless there is an amount in box 5 of after-tax money, the distribution would be taxable.

Level 15
Feb 2, 2020 2:44:01 PM

why are you answering no to both questions??????

 

why are you not answering 'yes' to the 2nd question????

Level 15
Feb 2, 2020 2:56:04 PM

I believe the poster said when answer "truthfully"  that it *was* rolled to a Roth then it becomes taxable and that is correct because conversion a before-tax 401(k) to a after-tax Roth IRA becomes taxable at the time of the conversion.   Only if the 401(k) contained any after-tax money that should be in box 5 on the 1099-R would that amount not be taxable.

 

To be s non-taxable rollover a code G 1099-R 401(k) rollover would have to be rolled into a Traditional IRA and not a Roth IRA.

 

Is there any amount in box 5 on the 1099-R?   

 

Answering yes to the 2nd (rollover to Roth IRA) question will then have another screen that asks if there are any any after tax contributions which would be the box 5 amount.   Otherwise the entire box 1 amount will be taxable.

Intuit Alumni
Feb 2, 2020 2:57:19 PM

Yes.  You need to report the Rollover exactly as it was reported to you on the 1099R.

 

If it was rolled over from a pre-tax account (ie - a regular 401k that is holding "pre-tax" funds) you will owe tax when it is rolled over to a Roth IRA.

 

Please see the attached FAQ from IRS:  Rollovers FAQ

 

Please note at the bottom of this FAQ:  A conversion to a Roth IRA results in taxation of any untaxed amounts in the traditional IRA. The conversion is reported on Form 8606.....

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Feb 2, 2020 8:38:22 PM

Thanks this helps a lot. Sucks that it has to be this way now, but this will be worth it in the end. 

I appreciate you 😊