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New Member
posted Jun 7, 2019 3:35:05 PM

Where and how to enter NR4?

The NR4  has income code 39 - Superannuation, pension benefits, periodic payments (from a private company) and exemption code T - Other exempting provisions: Exemption from withholding tax as a result of other exempting provisions of a tax convention, other than those given above in codes I, and P through R.

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New Member
Jun 7, 2019 3:35:07 PM

To enter the NR4, treat it as if it is a SSA-1099 and enter it in the Retirement Plans and Social Security section, under ‘Social Security (SSA-1099, RRB-1099)’.

Then, go to the Deductions and Credits section and select Foreign Taxes under ‘Estimates and Other Taxes Paid’ to enter any foreign tax you already paid to Canada on that income

For more info specific to the US/Canadian tax treaty, please see http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p597.pdf

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New Member
Jun 7, 2019 3:35:07 PM

To enter the NR4, treat it as if it is a SSA-1099 and enter it in the Retirement Plans and Social Security section, under ‘Social Security (SSA-1099, RRB-1099)’.

Then, go to the Deductions and Credits section and select Foreign Taxes under ‘Estimates and Other Taxes Paid’ to enter any foreign tax you already paid to Canada on that income

For more info specific to the US/Canadian tax treaty, please see http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p597.pdf

New Member
Jun 7, 2019 3:35:08 PM

When I entered the amount as social security. 15% is not taxable. The NR4 is from a private pension, shouldn't be 100% taxable?

New Member
Jun 7, 2019 3:35:10 PM

Yes it is 100% taxable and since it is definitely NOT social security, it is taxable 100% in the USA, but you will get a tax credit for the withholding tax that was deducted in Canada, and since tax rates are much higher in Canada than the US, you should be in a better position

New Member
Jun 7, 2019 3:35:12 PM

I spent an hour with a customer entering this trying to follow the instructions (enter the income as a SSA 1099 and the taxes paid as Foreign Taxes) and it is not as cut and dry as the article.  Plus, in the end it actually gave us a specific prompt for the Canadian pension!  So the workaround seemed not needed.  We need more details on this as it is very common income for US citizens to have.

Level 3
Sep 30, 2019 1:37:11 PM

Just wondering if you resolved whether this is SS or not. 

 

Per my research, some are of the mind that this goes on a SSA-1099 and other's say 1099-R, but I suppose it depends on the income code. 

 

For me, income code is 26.

 

How would I go about entering it? 

New Member
Jun 13, 2021 11:20:14 AM

Hi:

 

Do you have a list of steps you took?

 

Thanks