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New Member
posted Feb 18, 2021 10:36:27 AM

W-2c because of deferred payments when I did not defer payments?

Hi everyone,

 

I was going through and doing a final check of my taxes before filing them. This time around, I got a message saying that we were going to receive a W-2c because "based on your tax return info, you'll get a W-2c because you deferred payment of some of your Social Security taxes last year." However, we did not defer payment of any part of our Social Security taxes last year. Is this something my husband's employer could have done, did I make a mistake last year when filing, or is this a glitch in the TurboTax software? Has anyone else had this problem?

 

Thank you very much in advance for your help. I have never had this happen before.

 

Kelsey

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Level 15
Feb 18, 2021 10:47:48 AM

Some folks are getting that if they also had a 1099-NEC form in addition to a W-2

 

IF not that...

could be a simple rounding difference in box 4. 

 

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I tested my desktop software.....and for my test, in a situation where the 6.2% was close to $$$$.50..... a value of $$$$.49  in box 4 gave me the warning, and $$$$.50 did not....and that's all a rounding issue.

 

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18 Replies
New Member
Feb 18, 2021 10:44:52 AM

Hi, I just had the same thing happen to me.  I think there was an executive order last year to suspend tax with holding because of the virus.  It was done in October I think.  Anyway that's what I think it is about.  I went ahead and filed my return anyway.

Level 15
Feb 18, 2021 10:47:48 AM

Some folks are getting that if they also had a 1099-NEC form in addition to a W-2

 

IF not that...

could be a simple rounding difference in box 4. 

 

__________________________

I tested my desktop software.....and for my test, in a situation where the 6.2% was close to $$$$.50..... a value of $$$$.49  in box 4 gave me the warning, and $$$$.50 did not....and that's all a rounding issue.

 

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New Member
Feb 18, 2021 10:59:18 AM

Thank you very much! That was the problem. I went in and changed it to 0.50 cents and no warning message came up. I will go back and change and ignore the message.

 

What a relief!

Level 1
Feb 18, 2021 2:22:27 PM

I think this was my issue also.  I did not defer anything yet had this weird message.

Level 1
Feb 19, 2021 6:57:26 AM

what if I do have 1099-NECs but didn't elect to defer taxes?

Level 1
Feb 19, 2021 7:38:11 AM

I did not either. It’s just a TurboTax error. 

Level 1
Feb 19, 2021 11:50:01 AM

Will Turbo Tax correct this and when? I'm ready to e-file my taxes. There should not be a corrected W-2c. The maximum amount of FICA at 6.2% is $8,537.40, based on $137,700.00 max Salary dollar. 

 

There should no be any rounding on this or have to correct box 4 from the original W-2. 

 

Please advise.

Thank you.

 

Level 15
Feb 19, 2021 1:45:26 PM

@PS CS 

 

Advise...?   Ignore the notice  !

......That notice?  it doesn't do anything at all in your prepared tax return...it is just (wrongly) thinks you will get a W-2C sometime in the next 12 months...

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Unless you also had some Self-employment income entered in your file, there is nothing for you to do. but move on and ignore it.  Still, I wouldn't file before mid-March, but that's just me.

Returning Member
Feb 20, 2021 12:30:49 PM

Here is some guidance from irs.gov I found while researching this same message in Turbo Tax. I'm not able to link it directly in this message for some reason (https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/form-w-2-reporting-of-employee-social-security-tax-defe[product key removed]e-2020-65), but go to irs.gov/forms-pubs, select "Post Release Changes to Forms" and scroll down to "Form W-2 Reporting of Employee Social Security Tax Deferred under Notice 2020 65" to read the full context. I'll quote the employee section below:

 

Instructions for Employees
If you had only one employer during 2020 and your Form W-2c, Corrected Wages and Tax Statement, for 2020 only shows a correction to box 4 (or to box 14 for employees who pay RRTA tax) to account for employee Social Security (or Tier 1 RRTA tax) that was deferred in 2020 and withheld in 2021 pursuant to Notice 2020-65, no further steps are required. However, if you had two or more employers in 2020 and your Form W-2c for 2020 shows a correction to box 4 (or to box 14 for employees who pay RRTA tax) to account for employee Social Security (or Tier 1 RRTA tax) that was deferred in 2020 and withheld in 2021, you should use the amount of Social Security tax (or Tier 1 RRTA tax) withheld reported on the Form W-2c to determine whether you had excess Social Security tax (or Tier 1 RRTA tax) on wages (or compensation) paid in 2020.

If the corrected amount in box 4 of the Form W-2c for 2020 causes the total amount of employee Social Security tax (or equivalent portion of the Tier 1 RRTA tax) withheld by all of your employers to exceed the maximum amount ($8,537.40) of tax that you owe, or increases an already existing excess amount of employee Social Security tax (or Tier 1 RRTA tax withheld), then you should file Form 1040-X, Amended U.S. Individual Income Tax Return, to claim a credit for the excess Social Security tax (or Tier 1 RRTA tax) withheld. See the instructions to line 10 of Schedule 3 in the 2020 Instructions for Form 1040 and Form 1040-SR for more information.

Returning Member
Feb 20, 2021 12:49:12 PM

Here is some guidance from irs.gov I found while researching this same message in Turbo Tax. I'm not able to link it directly in this message for some reason, but go to irs.gov/forms-pubs, select "Post Release Changes to Forms" and scroll down to "Form W-2 Reporting of Employee Social Security Tax Deferred under Notice 2020 65" to read the full context. I'll quote the employee section below:

 

Instructions for Employees
If you had only one employer during 2020 and your Form W-2c, Corrected Wages and Tax Statement, for 2020 only shows a correction to box 4 (or to box 14 for employees who pay RRTA tax) to account for employee Social Security (or Tier 1 RRTA tax) that was deferred in 2020 and withheld in 2021 pursuant to Notice 2020-65, no further steps are required. However, if you had two or more employers in 2020 and your Form W-2c for 2020 shows a correction to box 4 (or to box 14 for employees who pay RRTA tax) to account for employee Social Security (or Tier 1 RRTA tax) that was deferred in 2020 and withheld in 2021, you should use the amount of Social Security tax (or Tier 1 RRTA tax) withheld reported on the Form W-2c to determine whether you had excess Social Security tax (or Tier 1 RRTA tax) on wages (or compensation) paid in 2020.

If the corrected amount in box 4 of the Form W-2c for 2020 causes the total amount of employee Social Security tax (or equivalent portion of the Tier 1 RRTA tax) withheld by all of your employers to exceed the maximum amount ($8,537.40) of tax that you owe, or increases an already existing excess amount of employee Social Security tax (or Tier 1 RRTA tax withheld), then you should file Form 1040-X, Amended U.S. Individual Income Tax Return, to claim a credit for the excess Social Security tax (or Tier 1 RRTA tax) withheld. See the instructions to line 10 of Schedule 3 in the 2020 Instructions for Form 1040 and Form 1040-SR for more information.

Level 1
Feb 20, 2021 2:16:29 PM

I, too, have this issue.  I checked W2 entry (I have only one) and the Box 4 is exactly 6.2% of Box 3.

 

The only reason this is showing up now is that I made $300 correction in my mortgage deduction. 

Returning Member
Feb 22, 2021 11:07:02 AM

I have only 1 W-2, and have been retired since 2007.  My W-2 is showing income of an insurance benefit for a life insurance policy.  I've been getting this W-2 since retirement and never had anything in withholding boxes 4 and 6.  I never received a W-2c.  Something has changed to give me that deferred payment message, perhaps TurboTax does have a glitch.

Expert Alumni
Feb 23, 2021 10:54:03 AM

This was to be fixed with a recent update.  I would recommend deleting the W-2 with the following procedure then going in and re-entering.  While in your return in TurboTax:

  • In the left hand column select "Tax Tools"
  • Select "Tools"
  • Select "Delete a form"
  • Review for W-2
  • Delete selected form then "Back"
  • Re-enter W-2
  • Run your Federal Review

This should fix it.  

 

Many taxpayers have been working from home this year.  Gaining deductibility from those expenses will be at the state level return. If your state allows miscellaneous itemized deductions, then you would possibly be able to deduct the expenses. With the changes from the 2018 Tax Cut and Jobs  Act, employee business expenses were eliminated as a deduction on your Federal return. If you live in Alabama, Arkansas, California, Hawaii, Minnesota, New York, or Pennsylvania, there is a deduction for unreimbursed employee business expenses. Or, if you live in a state the still allows itemized deductions even if you took the standard deduction on you Federal return. Click here for more tips on working from home.

 

 

Returning Member
Feb 23, 2021 12:00:31 PM

I deleted and reinstalled my W2, ran Federal checking and was informed I would receive a W2-c in the future.  Is it possible the fix did not get to me yet??

Expert Alumni
Feb 23, 2021 12:05:06 PM

You did not defer anything.  Your employer was allowed to defer this tax.

Check the amounts in box 3 of your W-2 and the amount in box 4.  Box 4 should be 6.2% of Box 3. 

 

Review the IRS Notice 2020-65 which explains more about this topic.

 

To Employers

If you deferred the employee portion of Social Security tax under Notice 2020-65, when reporting total Social Security wages paid to an employee on Form W-2, Wage and Tax Statement, include any wages for which you deferred withholding and payment of employee Social Security tax in box 3 (Social security wages) and/or box 7 (Social security tips). However, do not include in box 4 (Social security tax withheld) any amount of deferred employee Social Security tax that has not been withheld.

 

To Employees:

If you had only one employer during 2020 and your Form W-2c, Corrected Wages and Tax Statement, for 2020 (if you get one later), only shows a correction to box 4 (or to box 14 for employees who pay RRTA tax) to account for employee Social Security (or Tier 1 RRTA tax) that was deferred in 2020 and withheld in 2021 pursuant to Notice 2020-65, no further steps are required. 

 

This does not affect your tax return, only your social security account. For most employees no action is required.

Level 15
Feb 23, 2021 1:19:32 PM

There is a BUG in this calculation in the software, and it is supposed to be fixed by this Friday, 26 Feb.

 

As long as your box 4  ( both n the software and on your actual W-2) is 6.2% of box 3, then you are OK.

 

You can ignore it in any case...it is just a misdirected, but "supposedly helpful" message that does not change anything in your file...

 

Ignore it and move on, or wait until Friday and check again then.

 

 

Level 1
May 13, 2021 12:09:29 PM

As it turns out, my employer DID underwithhold my SS taxes, by $6.51. So this is not due to a bug in TurboTax. The IRS announced in August 2020 that employers could defer Social Security taxes from Sept. through Dec. 2020, so that is what my employer did, unbeknownst to me.  It was an employer action, not an employee one. But the deferred taxes have to be paid back throughout 2021. Since I no longer work for this employer, I called them and they said I would receive a bill in August for the amount due. Luckily for me, it is not a lot of money. Others may be less fortunate. 

New Member
Feb 16, 2022 2:19:37 PM

I am going through the exact same thing!! This is the first year that I have been told we didn't pay the taxes for this W-2 showing life insurance payment as part of my pension.... non taxable income because it is apart of pension.  Have you received any answer from Turbo experts yet? Please let me know if you do!

There is no available space to let them know that this W-2 is pension money not earned income. I always have written out the explanation and included it with the returns.    It has been 20 years and still we have problems. Crazy frustrating!!