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Returning Member
posted Dec 12, 2022 2:37:46 PM

Turbo Tax Premier won't let me enter data on line 4 in form 3804-CR...the amount of PTE credit to use in current year. Is there a work around

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Level 15
Dec 12, 2022 4:04:06 PM

If this is for the 2022 CA return that form is not yet functional ... expected date is 1/26/23 ... revisit that section again later.  

https://form-status.app.intuit.com/tax-forms-availability/formsavailability?albRedirect=true&product=Turbotax_online&bu=cg

New Member
Dec 15, 2022 5:16:17 AM

I’m amending 2021.

 

Level 15
Dec 15, 2022 5:40:16 AM

Since you must be using the downloaded program ... Switch to the FORMS mode and override anything you want.  Remember in the FILE tab you MUST choose to mail in the return ... then the proper forms & instructions will be presented in the PDF in the Print Center. 

 

 

This is my mini version of  a tutorial  that should be in the downloaded program: 

 

 

What is Forms Mode?

Forms Mode lets you view and make changes to your tax forms "behind the scenes."

If you're adventurous, you can even prepare your return in Forms Mode, but we don't recommend it. You may miss obscure credits and deductions you qualify for, and you may forget to report things that will come back and haunt you later.

Forms Mode is exclusively available in the TurboTax CD/Download software. It is not available in TurboTax Online.

                  

Related Information:

                             

If you want to play around with different figures and tax scenarios without affecting your original return you can ….

  • >>>In the TurboTax CD/Download software by creating a test copy
  • 1.  Open your return in TurboTax. 
  • 2.  From the File menu, choose Save As. 
  • 3.  Give the copy a new name to distinguish it from the original (for example, by adding "Test" or "Example" to the file name). 
  • 4. Click  Save. You are now safely working in the test copy and anything you do here will not affect the original. 
  •  https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1900642-how-to-make-a-test-copy-of-your-return

                        

  • >>  use the WHAT IF tool: 
  • - Click Forms Icon (upper right of screen) or Ctrl 2 (forms view) 
  • - Click on the Open Form Icon 
  • - In the “Type a form name.” area type What-If (with the dash), click on the name of the worksheet - click on Open Form 
  • - You will see the worksheet on the right side of the screen; enter the information right into the form 
  • - To get back to interview mode - click on the Step-by-Step Icon (upper right of screen) or Ctrl 1

 

Once you have filed successfully … you can shut off the auto updater function and then save the return &  .taxfile.

 

For Windows, up in the top menu, you  can set the  "Updater Preferences" to "Always Ask" or more commonly set to "I don't have an internet connection"  (even if you do), and then you are not forced to update....and can manually force an update when you choose to do so.   And then you can open the file(s) at any time with no forced upgrade.

 

But that's the Windows software.....not a MAC. For a MAC you cannot turn off the auto updater  HOWEVER  you can simply disconnect from the internet before opening the tax return.

 

                    

It's always a good idea to make a backup copy of your tax data file, in case your original gets lost or corrupted. Here's how:

  1. From the File menu in the upper-left corner of TurboTax, choose Save As (Windows) or Save (Mac).
  2. Browse to where you want to save your backup.
    • Tip: If you're saving to a portable device, save it to your computer first to prevent data corruption. Then, after completing Step 4, copy or move the backup file to your device.
  3. In the File name field, enter a name that will distinguish it from the original tax file (for example, add "Backup" or "Copy" to the file name)
  4. Click Save and then close TurboTax.
  5. Restart TurboTax and open the backup copy to make sure it's not corrupted. If you get an error, delete the backup and repeat these steps.

If you make changes to your original tax return file, repeat these steps to ensure your original and backup copies are in-synch.

Related Information:                             

 

AND save it as a PDF so you have access to a copy even if you don’t have the program still installed and operational :

AND protect the files :

 

*** Other clues to the downloaded program ***

 

In the forms mode ... double click  or right click on a box on a form to data source it ... sadly it doesn't work on all boxes. 

 

What's the meaning of all the different colors in Forms Mode?

When you look at an onscreen tax form using Forms Mode, you might wonder why one figure is blue and the one next to it is red or black.

These colors indicate the source of that data.

Color

 Meaning

Blue

You entered this data, either in the interview or Forms Mode.

Black

The program entered this data or calculated this amount.

Red

This data has either been overridden or is invalid (for example, a ZIP code that doesn't exist).

Red italics

You marked this amount as estimated.

Black italics

The program calculated this amount from an amount you marked as estimated.

Purple

This information has supporting details.

Aquamarine

This data was transferred over from last year.

Green

This data was imported from Quicken or QuickBooks.

Yellow fields (Windows)

Yellow fields allow user input. Anything you enter here shows up in blue.

                                                                                                                                  

 

 

 

Returning Member
Dec 15, 2022 6:45:35 AM

Thanks for the reply.  That makes sense and I am familiar with forms but this form will not allow an override!!!  I added the the PTE credit on line 43 by overriding but the form will not allow it.  Also, CA requires that you file electronically and usually if you override the electronic filing won't be allowed but in this case, it's still allowing me to make the electronic choice but the form doesn't show what I intend to use for the current year.  

 

Customer Service at Turbo Tax says that the program won't allow the use of the credit because its being entered after the due date and therefore feels it's not an allowed credit per the instructions.  However the LLC made the state tax payment ON TIME, 3/12/22 and therefore the credit should be allowed.

 

I think I'm just going to file with the form not showing the amount used.  Not sure what else to do.

 

 

Level 15
Dec 15, 2022 7:10:41 AM

Not all overrides can be done on the form directly ... many need to be done on the supporting worksheets.

 

And you cannot efile the amended return so ignore any errors about overrides and efiling.

 

Use this website to contact TurboTax support for this situation:

https://support.turbotax.intuit.com/contact/

Returning Member
Dec 15, 2022 11:27:52 AM

thank you

Level 1
Jul 23, 2023 7:30:11 AM

I am having the same problem. The amount "used" for the current year is showing incorrect and it won't let me override to put the correct amount so that the carryover is correct. Is this a known issue?

Level 15
Jul 23, 2023 7:58:52 AM

Use this website to contact TurboTax support for this situation:

https://support.turbotax.intuit.com/contact/