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Level 2
posted Jan 2, 2023 8:34:41 AM

Need help - first year of doing taxes under TTS with MTM.

2022 is going to be my first tax reporting year with TTS and MTM accounting. Therefore I need some guidance from the members who may be experienced in this with using Turbotax. No need to start from basics because I already have collected some notes such as... need to use the forms option from CD or download version, Have to go thru Q&A to setup the correct options, have to print the return and file etc. 

 

I have few below questions...

 

  1. Does the CD version have same trade transaction volume limits as the download version for TT Home and Business? 
  2. After answering the questions on the initial interview and then importing the trade entries from the broker account, was turbotax able to correctly prepare the form 4797?

  3. Was there any manual corrections/adjustments needed because turbotax was not accurate?

Please share any other tricks and tips that may be valuable.

 

Many thanks. 

 

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Level 15
Jan 2, 2023 8:49:07 AM
Level 2
Mar 5, 2023 4:35:42 AM

Thanks. I have another question. Where can I report the statements 1099-B, 1099-INT that are related to the my trading account? I am guessing that should also go under the business income section and not under my person income section?

 

Thanks

Expert Alumni
Mar 5, 2023 8:28:54 AM

Since this is Market to Market, everything will be posted on Schedule C. Use the link below for steps on reporting income or transactions.

How to Report Sales Using the MTM Election

 

Making the Sec. 475(f) election offers at least one monumental advantage. Sec. 475(d)(3) provides that the gains and losses recognized on the deemed sales are treated as ordinary income or ordinary losses. This rule is extremely valuable because it allows traders (who make the election) to avoid the limitation on the deduction of capital losses. By making the election, traders can use losses to offset all other taxable income without limitation. Moreover, because these are business losses, traders can add to or create a net operating loss that they can carry back two years and forward 20 years. The wash sales rules do not apply.

 

Use the link below for additional information about the election. 

 

This Exhibit below is useful in determining status.

Exhibit : Tax treatments of traders, investors, and dealers

 

Investor

Trader

Trader

Dealer

Income

 

No mark-to-market election

Mark-to-market election

 

Capital gain treatment

Yes

Yes

No (ordinary income)

No

Capital loss limits

Yes

Yes

No (ordinary income)

No

Reporting

Schedule D

Schedule D

Form 4797

Form 4797

Wash sale rules

Yes

Yes

No

No

Dividends and Interest

Schedule B

Schedule C

Schedule C

Schedule C

Deductions

 

 

 

 

Authority

Sec. 212

Sec. 162

Sec. 162

Sec. 162

Type

Investment

Business

Business

Business             

Reporting

Schedule A

Schedule C

Schedule C

Schedule C

Sec. 67 misc. itemized

Yes

No

No

No

Sec. 68 phaseout

Yes

No

No

No

Sec. 179 expensing

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

Home office

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

Investment interest

Yes

No

No

No

AMT expense limitations

Yes

No

No

No

SE tax

No

No

No

No

Qualified retirement plan

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

Health insurance premiums

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

 

 
 
 
 
 
 

 

@mdeodhar

@mdeodhar

{Edited 3/6/2023 |12:46 PM PST}

Level 15
Mar 5, 2023 8:56:21 AM


@mdeodhar wrote:

Where can I report the statements 1099-B, 1099-INT that are related to the my trading account? I am guessing that should also go under the business income section and not under my person income section?


Yes, the income from dividends and interest would be reported as business income (Schedule C, presumably) if you have made a MTM election, but the trades would initially be reported on Form 4797.