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Level 2
posted Mar 6, 2024 10:51:45 AM

Married Joint Filing vs Separate Filing

I got married during 2023, and I wonder which way might save more taxes? Joint filing or separate? My spouse is on the similar income level as mine. I tried a few online calculators and the results were all a bit different. Thank you in advance.

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Level 15
Mar 6, 2024 10:53:01 AM

It is not easy to compare MFJ to MFS using online TT but you can do it.  Since you only get one return for each account and user ID, you have to use 3 accounts and user ID’s—one for MFJ and two for each of the MFS returns.  Compare, choose, and file—and pay—accordingly.

 

It is much easier to do this comparison using the desktop version of TT installed from a CD or downloaded to your own computer.  You pay once for the software and you can prepare multiple returns easily, and it has a “what if” feature that allows comparisons.

 

 

 

If you were legally married at the end of 2023 your filing choices are married filing jointly or married filing separately.

 

Married Filing Jointly is usually better, even if one spouse had little or no income. When you file a joint return, you and your spouse will get the married filing jointly standard deduction of $27,700 (+$1500 for each spouse 65 or older)  You are eligible for more credits including education credits, earned income credit, child and dependent care credit, and a larger income limit to receive the child tax credit. 

 

If you choose to file married filing separately, both spouses have to file the same way—either you both itemize or you both use standard deduction. Your tax rate will be higher than on a joint return.

 

 Some of the special rules for filing separately include: you cannot get earned income credit, education credits, adoption credits, or deductions for student loan interest. A higher percent of your Social Security benefits may be taxable. Your limit for SALT (state and local taxes and sales tax) will be only $5000 per spouse. In many cases you will not be able to take the child and dependent care credit. The amount you can contribute to a retirement account will be affected. If you live in a community property state, you will be required to provide additional information regarding your spouse’s income. ( Community property states:  AZ, CA, ID, LA, NV, NM, TX, WA, WI)

 

 If  you are using online TurboTax to prepare your returns, you will need to prepare two separate returns and pay twice since with online, you get one return per fee.

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1894449-married-filing-jointly-vs-married-filing-separately

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1901162-married-filing-separately-in-community-property-states

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1894449-is-it-better-for-a-married-couple-to-file-jointly-or-separately

Expert Alumni
Mar 6, 2024 10:53:49 AM

Married filing Jointly is almost always better.   When you file separately, your tax rate is higher and you won't be able to claim:

 

PLUS - - If you file separately and live in Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington, or Wisconsin, you have to deal with community property allocations and adjustments, which adds extra work and complexity to your taxes.

 

Comparing MFS to MFS

 

Why would I want to file separately from my spouse

Level 2
Mar 6, 2024 11:05:56 AM

Thank you for the detailed info. Regarding your last point around two separate returns, that only applies to MFS right? MFJ is just one return I assume? 

Expert Alumni
Mar 6, 2024 11:10:54 AM

That is correct.

 

@terryz15 

Level 15
Mar 6, 2024 11:12:51 AM

Yes.   A Joint return is one return combined for the both of you.  Married filing Separate is 2 returns, one for each spouse