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New Member
posted Jun 3, 2019 1:31:59 PM

Is exempt-interest dividends non- taxable in Fed and State ?

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Intuit Alumni
Jun 3, 2019 1:32:01 PM

Yes, Exempt-interest dividends are not subject to federal income tax however they may be subject to state income tax or the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT). The exempt dividend income must be reported on your tax return.

New Member
Jun 6, 2019 1:50:18 AM

WHERE is the state taxable portion input in to turbo tax?

Level 2
Oct 26, 2019 5:31:49 PM

That is what I also need to know.  Where and how do we show the dividends that are only federally exempt on state return?

Level 15
Oct 27, 2019 5:06:00 AM

 @tompass1 

 

You will need to Edit every 1099-INT that has box 8 interest in it, and every 1099-DIV that has box 11 dividends in it.

1)  IF you hold a bunch of individual Municipal Bonds, the Tax-exempt interest is usually reported in box 8 on a 1099-INT form.   On the pages that follow the main form, there is a place where you MUST indicate whether the municipal bond interest (box 8  ) came from a)"More than one state" ..Or... b)  Only your resident state (rare.. unless you hold only individual bonds from your own state)....Or..c) break it down to show bonds from your own state, the US territories, and all else as "More than one state"  (picture 1 & 2 below).__________________

2) IF you held Mutual funds with both Taxable bonds and Tax-Exempt Municipal bond holdings, those are reported on a 1099-DIV form. With all "non-municipal" dividends in boxes 1a, 1b, and the tax-exempt municipal dividends  in box 11.

On the followup pages you again  indicate the Municipal bond breakdown for box 11 came from a)  "More than one state" ..Or..b)  Only your resident state (rare... unless you hold a state specific mutual fund)...OR..c) break it down to show bonds from your own state, the US territories, and all else as "More than one state".  (looks the similar to picture 1 & 2 below), d)  but a warning for a few states (CA and MN.) do not allow a breakdown unless the Mutual fund you owned contained more than 50% of it's holdings for that state  for CA, or 95% MN-bonds for MN residents..  (...And IL doesn't allow a break-out at all for IL municipal bonds held in a Mutual Fund) 3)  For a 1099-DIV, if some of the $$ in box 1a or 1b came from US treasuries....then you have to calculate the actual $$ amount from the data the Mutual fund gives you at year-end...On one of the pages that follows the main software form, you get a page where you check a box to indicate that some was US bond interest...and then the next page  allows you to enter the $$ amount associated with that.  (For a 1099-INT, if you hold individual US bonds, the US bond interest will be in box 3 of that form, and the software handles it automatically without further input by you)

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Example:  You received $1000 of box 11 on a 1099-DIV.  You live in NC and the broker indicates that 2% came from NC. So you break out $20 for NC, and $980 for "More than one state".   That saved you $1 on your NC taxes since NC taxes at ~5% of the $20.

Whether it's worth the effort for you to break out the $$ from your state depends on the size your own-state bond holdings.

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Level 2
Oct 27, 2019 4:58:30 PM

Thanks for response.  Most of my muni income is federal exempt but NONE is state exempt.  So when on the federal return I enter the exempt amount, that exempt amount gets automatically carried over to state return.  My thought is on state form go the "other situations" option and then select additions.  The form requires you to describe the addition and I would state Fed Exempt Dividend that is not State exempt and then enter the amount.  I ran a dummy return and when I did that, it did adjust my state tax obligation appropriately by adding back in the federal exempt income.  Would this be acceptable?

Level 2
Oct 27, 2019 5:01:56 PM

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Not individual muni bonds.   Bond funds such as Vanguard etc.   Very small portion of same can be attributed to SC, my state, which I could under the same category on state return "other situations" ,select "subtractions", and enter that amount with a description of why and it automatically subtract from my state tax obligation.  Again, in dummy return it seems to work fine.  Your thoughts?

Level 15
Oct 27, 2019 5:58:42 PM

Might work, but that is not the proper way to do it with the software.   Your way would have it in line 3v, and none of the "Other" subtractions described in the SC1040 instructions list SC bond interest as one of the "Other" subtractions that belong on that line.   Anything else could prompt an SC audit, or letter requesting more information as to why you didn't take it out of line 1d to begin with.

 

https://dor.sc.gov/forms-site/Forms/SC1040Instr_2018.pdf

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Mutual funds report their state totals in box 11 of the 1099-DIV....and then, in the software, you specify the SC-only sub-portion as I noted in my response above.  When done properly that way, then only the non-SC bond interest will show up as an addition on line 1d of the SC1040.

Level 2
Oct 27, 2019 6:20:37 PM

Your response greatly appreciated.  I think I understand what you are recommending but not so sure can fully implement.  Will fool around with a mock return and see how it goes.   Also have to claim credit for NJ taxes paid on contributions to Tax Deferred Annuity as I am taking RMD.  SC taxes the RMD but I can get a calculated credit for those NJ taxes paid.  Not sure where I would enter that in the SC return.

Level 2
Oct 27, 2019 7:04:34 PM

I think I have it.    Assuming I had 10000 in fed exempt dividends, I would enter that number in box 11 and then under State/Territory column use "XX" to represent a fund with no state exempt dividends and  enter 10000 less what small amount that is attributed to SC state investment within the fund  in next line.  So assuming 200 in SC eligible dividends, there would be 9800 in the XX line and 200 in SC line.   Is this correct?

Level 15
Oct 27, 2019 7:25:33 PM

If you are screwing around in Forms Mode  Mostly Yes  (you shouldn't be, you are inviting disaster unless you really know what you are doing.......you should stick to the interview)   ..'

 

Box 11 …………..10000

…...then two lines in the table breakdown...

First line:  SC...……..200

2nd line: XX...…….9800

and the very bottom of the table, below the Total and just above the box 12 entry: (State where the dividends were earned...…"  …...MX...and not XX.

 

 Those XX and MX codes are not specifically defined anywhere because you are not supposed to be using Forms Mode except in unusual circumstances to quickly fix particular problems.

Level 2
Oct 27, 2019 7:49:31 PM

Again, I have gotten an education.  I think I learned enough to just have the account do it.   Moved from NJ to SC last year after selling house in NJ and a condo in SC so definitely needed an expert.  Perhaps best thing to do is just have them do taxes again for '19.    Thanks.

Level 2
Oct 27, 2019 8:14:21 PM

Gave it one more shot.  Finally see it.     After entering exempt dividends, just continue to page through and eventually get to page that you referred to where asked to which state or multiple states are the exempt dividends attributed to.   Would just enter the amount on line one for SC portion of exempt dividends and then on line two enter " more than one state" for remainder of exempt dividends.   When I did that and checked the "forms" it clearly made the entry for SC and XX in the amounts I entered.

Returning Member
Mar 8, 2020 4:46:57 PM

I have had the same problem.  Actually, had to do a few amendments to my state due to the calculations being "off."  Turbo Tax makes this process very difficult and unfriendly for the user to figure out.  I did just what you said my state with the amount that it should be tax exempt and the remaining amount for multiple states and NOW I cannot get to view my state form prior to filing to see if Turbo Tax did it correctly?  I am sooooo frustrated.  I

Returning Member
Mar 8, 2020 5:00:56 PM

Did you find that doing it this way - entering your state and putting the exact amount that should  be tax exempted out of the total from the federal tax exempt and then do multiple states and add the remaining amount from the total federal tax exempt  amount worked?  I did exactly that but am afraid to file without checking it and Turbo does not let you view the entire STATE form without paying for it?  So frustrating.  Got audited by my state in the past and it was calculated incorrectly by TURBO - due to the POOR instruction on how to recalculate this manually so I am afraid to file...any suggestions on how I can be sure TURBO did this correctly?

 

Level 15
Mar 9, 2020 5:32:10 AM

@iborton 

 

Yep..with the Online software you have to pay to see the actual forms to check them out.  IF you start using the desktop software instead (Full Windows or MAC computers only), on that you can look at the actual forms and worksheets at any time you want to.

 

 IF you are uncertain, perhaps you should just tag all of it as coming from "Multiple States".  Unless you specifically have been investing in your own state's bonds, there is usually little to gain by breaking out your own state....unless box 11 on the 1099-DIV, or box 8 on the 1099-INT is pretty big.

 

Example:  You have $1000 in box 11 of a 1099-DIV form, and you find out that 2% of that came form your own state's bonds.  2% of $1000 is $20.....so if I break out $20 as my state, and $980 as multiple states, I reduced my own state taxable income by $20, and save myself a whole $1 in taxes (5% income tax in my state)