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posted Mar 7, 2021 5:38:31 PM

How do I find the 'QBI Passive Op Loss' from a K-1 form?

I am a unit holder for this L.P. and received a K-1 form. While entering this information in Turbotax, I received this question. However, I really do not understand what I should enter here. I have a Code Z on my K-1 form that shows a (loss) value. Any help is much appreciated. 

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Not applicable
Mar 7, 2021 5:40:09 PM

Adding some information: I also have a Code Z on my K-1 which has a (loss).

New Member
Mar 20, 2021 4:34:41 PM

I'm here with the same question. 

Level 2
Mar 22, 2021 3:08:28 AM

I have the same question. There is no such field in my K-1 form. 

Expert Alumni
Mar 22, 2021 5:56:53 AM

Information for calculating the Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction should be included in a Statement A, attached to your K-1.  It is also include in Box 20 of a K-1 for a partnership with code Z.

 

 

If you don't have Statement A, the QBI Passive Op Loss is the figure listed on line 1 or line 2 (if real estate) of your K-1 if:

  • It is a negative number; and
  • The material and active participation boxes are not checked.

Otherwise, leave the answer field blank.

Level 2
Mar 24, 2021 1:30:42 AM

Thank you for explanation. 

 

I do not have Statement A, but there is Box 20 with code Z. It is positive in one K-1 form, and negative in another K-1 form (from another MLP).  Should I get these numbers from 20 code Z and use them as QBI Passive Op Loss in TT?

Level 1
Mar 21, 2022 11:27:11 AM

I don't have a code Z. I do have, on Line 1, "Separate PTP Ordinary Business Income," which is a positive number. I assume this means I have no QBI Passive Op Loss. According to your advice, I should therefore just skip answering the question in TurboTax. But the software won't let me do that. It insists on an answer. I propose to enter 0. Is that correct?

Expert Alumni
Mar 21, 2022 11:51:30 AM

Since your income is positive and you don't have a code Z on your K-1 schedule, it would be unlikely that you have QBI operating loss, so it would be appropriate to enter $0 for that entry in TurboTax.

@terribleivan

Level 1
Mar 30, 2022 10:41:52 PM

When putting in the QBI Passive Op Loss, Turbo Tax is wanting me to put the number on the 2019 line G Operating Loss. Do I need to go back to 2019 and find that number?

Expert Alumni
Mar 31, 2022 5:36:21 AM

Yes, if you owned this investment in 2019 and it had a loss in 2019, it is important to enter that loss to make sure your QBI deduction calculates correctly. 

Level 7
Mar 31, 2022 5:39:25 AM

Just change the code Z to code AH.  AH is a generic code and will clear up the TurboTax error and let you file.  

Level 1
Mar 31, 2022 11:55:14 PM

I guess I was trying to figure out why Turbo Tax didn’t already fill in the 2019 since I used Turbo Tax for the last ten years.

Level 7
Apr 1, 2022 8:38:28 AM

Don't wear out your brain trying to figure out why TurboTax does something weird.  It is because someone changed something in the program.  Use whatever work around it takes and it will possibly be fixed for next year.

New Member
Apr 2, 2022 7:00:06 PM

TurboTax 2021 asks me this question and  I have no idea to find this info 

New Member
Apr 2, 2022 7:02:24 PM

what is answer?

Level 7
Apr 2, 2022 7:56:47 PM

The program is not working right.  It will probably be fixed next year This year use AH.

Employee Tax Expert
Apr 4, 2022 6:00:36 AM

See the answer above from Expert Irene2805:

 

Information for calculating the Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction should be included in a Statement A, attached to your K-1.  It is also include in Box 20 of a K-1 for a partnership with code Z.

 

If you don't have Statement A, the QBI Passive Op Loss is the figure listed on line 1 or line 2 (if real estate) of your K-1 if:

  • It is a negative number; and
  • The material and active participation boxes are not checked.

Otherwise, leave the answer field blank.

Returning Member
Apr 17, 2022 10:17:10 PM

Problem: Federal Review is asking for Schedule E QBI Passive Operating Loss and Passive Operating Loss but does not indicate which fields are missing.

 

Solution: Probably zero (0). 

 

I worked with two specialists and an expert this evening to interpret what appears to be a coding bug. In the rental property sales carryover section, Passive loss and QBI deduction ask for a by-year value to be entered. If the total loss spans multiple years, and some of the loss is from prior to 2018, one should be able to enter 0 (zero) in the 2018 & 2019 fields, however, the page will not accept the value zero.

 

During the Federal Review, I was redirected to check the values for the Schedule E form to fill out the Passive Operating Loss and QBI Operating Loss, yet, there are no fields with these titles and it was unclear what to complete (no fields were being highlighted by the system to indicate what is missing). When I entered a value, the next message indicated that the number could not be greater than zero. I entered a negative value (I suspected this was incorrect) and clicked Continue. I was greeted with a Success message that didn't feel accurate. So I navigated back to the original Carryover section and confirmed my suspicions; the original entry is not allowing zero, yet the form is requiring zero in the 2018 and 2019 fields. I corrected the values I had changed in the Federal Review, left 2018 and 2019 blank, returned to the Federal Review section and added zeros when prompted for the missing values.

 

I believe this is a bug and will cause folks to enter an incorrect value. Hopefully, mine is correct.

Returning Member
Mar 31, 2023 6:58:54 PM

My K-1, 20Z--section 199A PTP income is positive, and the number is rejected, how do  I enter it for the QBI passive op loss?

Expert Alumni
Apr 5, 2023 9:59:02 AM

If you have positive income from a PTP for 2022, you do not have a QBI Loss.  If your PTP qualifies for QBI, and you have QBI losses carrying over from prior years, TurboTax will offset your QBI income from 2022 with the carryover loss entered when it calculates the QBI deduction.