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Level 2
posted Feb 18, 2022 11:00:49 AM

Form 8606 Line 14 - Losses prior to Roth Conversion

Hello.

I made a nondeductible $6000 contribution to a Traditional IRA for the first time and invested it, but then did a Roth conversion (I realize now I should have converted before investing).


At the time of conversion I had investment losses so the full conversion was only $5979.  Now when I fill out Form 8606 of my tax return, I am left with $21 on line 14 ($6000-5979) even though there is really $0 remaining in the traditional IRA.


Am I stuck tracking this $21 basis forever or is there some way to cancel this out by noting the losses?

 

Thank you.

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Level 15
Feb 19, 2022 6:05:44 AM

Since the miscellaneous deduction for unrecoverable basis has been suspended until 2026, yes, you still have $21 of basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions carrying forward that can be applied to some future distribution that you make from a traditional IRA should you ever make a deductible traditional IRA contribution or have investment gains in a traditional IRA in the future.

 

In 2026 when miscellaneous deductions subject to the 2% of AGI floor are reinstated, you might be able to claim a deduction of $21 on 2026 Schedule A.

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Expert Alumni
Feb 18, 2022 2:02:27 PM

Yes, just report the full conversion at $6000 even though there is a small loss. 

 

@Zidane 

 

[ Edited 02/18/22| 05:31 PM PST]

Level 2
Feb 18, 2022 2:19:37 PM

When you say “report the full version at $6000” which line of the 8606 are you referring to?

Expert Alumni
Feb 18, 2022 5:28:04 PM

I apologize. I met to report the full conversion of $6000. 

Level 2
Feb 19, 2022 4:16:07 AM

Thank you @DaveF1006. Will there be any issues if I report a $6000 conversion and it doesn’t match the $5979 listed on the 1099-R that is reported to the IRS?

Level 15
Feb 19, 2022 4:44:33 AM

when  you convert the entire amount of your IRA ( as in a Backdoor Roth conversion) your basis should (has to)   go to zero. You're entering something wrong.

 

Level 15
Feb 19, 2022 6:05:44 AM

Since the miscellaneous deduction for unrecoverable basis has been suspended until 2026, yes, you still have $21 of basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions carrying forward that can be applied to some future distribution that you make from a traditional IRA should you ever make a deductible traditional IRA contribution or have investment gains in a traditional IRA in the future.

 

In 2026 when miscellaneous deductions subject to the 2% of AGI floor are reinstated, you might be able to claim a deduction of $21 on 2026 Schedule A.

Level 2
Feb 19, 2022 6:22:19 AM

@fanfare The entire converted amount is less than the original contribution due to the investment losses, which is why the basis is not 0.  I believe it has been entered correctly.

Level 15
Feb 19, 2022 9:31:10 AM

Well then, make a contribution to an IRA of $21, take a deduction for it,

then convert the IRA to a Roth IRA.

That is, if you can find a custodian who will start an IRA for $21.