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Level 3
posted Jan 16, 2022 4:13:26 PM

Filling out 1040-SR. Schedule 8812 was generated, and I don't know why.

I'm retired with no dependents, yet TTAX Premier created Schedule 8812.  Why?

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Level 15
Jan 16, 2022 4:20:16 PM

Go back to My Info and see if you answered something incorrectly about supporting a dependent child.  Or did you have a dependent on your return in 2020?   Did you answer a question somewhere about the child tax credit---or about letter 6419?

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Level 15
Jan 16, 2022 4:20:16 PM

Go back to My Info and see if you answered something incorrectly about supporting a dependent child.  Or did you have a dependent on your return in 2020?   Did you answer a question somewhere about the child tax credit---or about letter 6419?

Level 3
Jan 16, 2022 4:27:39 PM

Hi XMAS BABY

Went back to interview under PERSONAL INFO: DEPENDENTS.  Did not make a selection.  Chose NO and the 8812 went away.  

Thanks!

Level 15
Jan 16, 2022 4:48:10 PM

Interesting...in my Desktop Premier  (Single-Retired) and no dependents indicated.   Re-ran thru the Dependents (None) in the personal Info section too

 

The 8812 showed up in my Forms during the error check, when it wasn't in the list of forms before that final Federal review.  I deleted it in forms mode.

 

Went thru the Federal review /error check again, and it showed up again in my Forms Mode list.

 

Saved a PDF of tax return only, and it isn't included there, even if it's in my Forms list.

 

Tried again to delete it in Forms Mode, and this time going thru Fed review and error check, it showed up again in the error check and Erro showed up with the 8812....wanted me to put a value (how much received) into one of the boxes...I put a zero in it...and error check cleared.  8812 is still in the Forms Mode list, but again, is not in the PDF generated for filing-only copy.

 

Not sure it's critical...but puzzling.

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I guess it's possible for a person to have had a child dependent for 2020, and received advanced payments during 2021 based on 2020 tax filing....and not having the as a child dependent to claim in 2021.   No obvious interview area to indicate that situation that I could find.

 

 

Level 15
Jan 16, 2022 4:48:17 PM

EVERYONE will have to answer 2  questions in the Deductions & Credit section in regards to the  Child Tax Credit form 8812  even if you did not enter any dependents in the MY INFO section …  just follow the interview screens and don't jump ahead.  If you miss it then when you get to the REVIEW tab it will require you to go back.

 

Go to Federal>Deductions and Credits>You and Your Family>Child Tax Credit

 

 

 

 

 

Level 2
Jan 27, 2022 11:31:38 AM

Thanks Critter for this informative answer. 

There is no need for everyone to answer this question.   The program needs to be corrected.

Level 15
Jan 27, 2022 11:37:09 AM

Sorry but no ... even my professional program requires this issue to be addressed.   

 

The program cannot assume that just because you do not have a qualifying dependent on the 2021 return that you did not have one on the 2020 return  EVEN  if you filed with the TT program last year since you could have amended the return after you filed elsewhere.    So the program is playing is safe and requiring all users to answer these questions among some others that pop up every year.  If a user  skips sections this year they will be required to go back and comply with the interview requests.  

 

Only exception will be on dependent returns.  

Level 2
Jan 27, 2022 12:32:34 PM

Sorry, but it is a BUG when it requires me to go into child tax credits when I don’t have a child. the question has nothing to do with 2020, just 2021.

Level 15
Jan 27, 2022 12:38:53 PM

The problem was generated by the IRS, and Congress.

 

Sorry, but Critter is correct.....There are a ton of Separated or Divorced couples with a child that they alternate years on.....as such, you could have been the divorced Dad who had the child and got 6 mos of child tax credits during 2021 because the child was on his 2020 tax return, but isn't claiming a child now on the 2021 tax return.   Or the other way around

 

Ther just is no way to for the software to know that for sure....so it all gets jumbled up nutso with no way to deal with it cleanly.

Level 2
Jan 27, 2022 1:00:03 PM

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Since TT offers the choice “I’ll enter it myself”, a little asterisk clue that says something to the effect even though you are 90 years old and no child tax situations you still need to go to the child tax credit section and tick a box “no”, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for your response.

Level 2
Jan 27, 2022 1:11:33 PM

If we are offering suggestions on how to make this easier, I vote for adding it to the personal information section.  You already have to complete that section anyway.  Thanks to all that helped clarify this confusing change. 

Level 15
Jan 27, 2022 1:13:48 PM

Yeah ... nice suggestion however the programmers have not heard me for the last 10 years so I doubt they will start now especially since this is just for one tax year. 

Level 2
Jan 27, 2022 1:24:14 PM

Thanks - I think SkyQueen has the better approach for this or any other unusual one-off sorts of situations. We are really early in the tax season so seems to me when the crush of tax filing comes there will be huge confusion out there among those of us who skip the interview and would never know to go to that section. Also, not for me to say, but seems to me some of the fixes I read about might wind up creating problems with IRS with inclusion of schedule 8812 when it is not called for. But I will leave all that in your good hands.

New Member
Feb 2, 2022 2:36:49 PM

I made no errors in personal info, had no dependent children in 2020, and could not find where I might have entered information about child tax credit

Level 15
Feb 2, 2022 2:37:35 PM


@Dr--Joe wrote:

I made no errors in personal info, had no dependent children in 2020, and could not find where I might have entered information about child tax credit


Enter a 0 (zero) when asked to enter a number on the Schedule 8812. This will correct the error and remove the Schedule 8812 from your tax return so that you can file the return.

New Member
Feb 2, 2022 2:45:30 PM

Thank you for your answer.  It worked, but it was unclear what line to enter the 0.  It was almost at the end of the schedule.  

Level 3
Feb 2, 2022 4:38:30 PM

Critter-3's method worked for me. Thanks.

Level 15
Feb 2, 2022 5:19:54 PM

If you have no qualifying children on the 2021 return and you did not get any advance CTC payments then all yu have to do is answer these 2 questions when asked ... if you messed up then back up and try again.  

 

 

New Member
Feb 5, 2022 2:41:53 PM

Unfortunately, those two questions did not show up in the TT Deluxe CD version of the software I was using.  There is no way to stop the ridiculous error except to put a 0 in an otherwise blank inapplicable Schedule 8812.

 

Level 3
Feb 5, 2022 4:19:45 PM

I'm using TT deluxe CD. It worked fine for me.

Level 15
Feb 5, 2022 4:28:25 PM

 

Everyone has to answer whether they received advance child tax credit payments.   If you did not receive any of those payments between July and December you need to answer that you did not receive any payments.

 

There are so many scenarios with those payments---like divorced/never married parents who have issues over who received the payments, who claimed the children, etc. --- the software has no way of knowing if any of that involves you---so you have to answer the questions about it. 

Returning Member
Feb 8, 2022 10:17:13 AM

Same problem with Schedule 8812...it "appeared"

Level 15
Feb 8, 2022 10:40:28 AM

 

Everyone has to answer whether they received advance child tax credit payments.   If you did not receive any of those payments between July and December you need to answer that you did not receive any payments.

 

There are so many scenarios with those payments---like divorced/never married parents who have issues over who received the payments, who claimed the children, etc. --- the software has no way of knowing if any of that involves you---so you have to answer the questions about it. 

 

Please follow these steps to indicate you did not receive any advanced payments:

  1. Click on the "Search" on the top and type "Child tax credit"
  2. Click on “Jump to Child Tax Credit”
  3. Continue through the questions until the "Tell us about any advance Child Tax Credit payments" screen and select "No".
  4. Continue through the questions.

New Member
Feb 8, 2022 10:48:58 AM

We ran into this issue. Our info was entered correctly, we had no dependents in 2020. I entered zero in the field required and the program allowed us to continue and file.

Returning Member
Feb 12, 2022 2:53:55 PM

I check the NO box on the Personal Info form. but when I go back to check it, the box is empty. Bug that TTax needs to fix. 

I tried putting a Zero in 8812, and the error goes away. but I'm afraid to submit by Efile.