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posted Apr 3, 2024 12:00:19 PM

Filing Status

Hello. To start my wife and I live in Wisconsin. I am retired for 2 years now and I am wondering if I should change my filing status between the two of us. We are currently filing jointly. The reason I ask is I no longer have earned income and I am receiving a pension of approximately $60,000 and I take approximately $12,000 out a year from my 457 account. My wife works part time and makes approximately $16,000. Neither of us are on Social Security. Due to the large gap between our incomes, I was wondering if it would be more beneficial for us to file separately as opposed to jointly? We take the standard deduction and the only additional income we report is the interest from our bank accounts. I have federal and state withholding from my retirement account and my wife also has the same from her part-time work. Our recent tax return showed that we owed money for the first time and that is the basis for my question. Thank you.

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Level 15
Apr 3, 2024 12:02:34 PM

Married filing separately is usually the worst way to file.   And..you are in a community property state.

 

 

If you were legally married at the end of 2023 your filing choices are married filing jointly or married filing separately.

 

Married Filing Jointly is usually better, even if one spouse had little or no income. When you file a joint return, you and your spouse will get the married filing jointly standard deduction of $27,700 (+$1500 for each spouse 65 or older)  You are eligible for more credits including education credits, earned income credit, child and dependent care credit, and a larger income limit to receive the child tax credit. 

 

If you choose to file married filing separately, both spouses have to file the same way—either you both itemize or you both use standard deduction. Your tax rate will be higher than on a joint return.

 

 Some of the special rules for filing separately include: you cannot get earned income credit, education credits, adoption credits, or deductions for student loan interest. A higher percent of your Social Security benefits may be taxable. Your limit for SALT (state and local taxes and sales tax) will be only $5000 per spouse. In many cases you will not be able to take the child and dependent care credit. The amount you can contribute to a retirement account will be affected. If you live in a community property state, you will be required to provide additional information regarding your spouse’s income. ( Community property states:  AZ, CA, ID, LA, NV, NM, TX, WA, WI)

 

 If  you are using online TurboTax to prepare your returns, you will need to prepare two separate returns and pay twice since with online, you get one return per fee.

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1894449-married-filing-jointly-vs-married-filing-separately

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1901162-married-filing-separately-in-community-property-states

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1894449-is-it-better-for-a-married-couple-to-file-jointly-or-separately

 

Level 15
Apr 3, 2024 12:03:34 PM

It is not easy to compare MFJ to MFS using online TT but you can do it.  Since you only get one return for each account and user ID, you have to use 3 accounts and user ID’s—one for MFJ and two for each of the MFS returns.  Compare, choose, and file—and pay—accordingly.

 

It is much easier to do this comparison using the desktop version of TT installed from a CD or downloaded to your own computer.  You pay once for the software and you can prepare multiple returns easily, and it has a “what if” feature that allows comparisons.