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Level 1
posted Dec 29, 2023 9:35:54 PM

Does my foreign spouse need to file Fbar on her own if her foreign bank account has more than 10k USD (we file jointly for US tax return)?

Me: US permanent resident

My wife: Lives and works in a different country, no immigration status in the US, already applied and got ITIN

We will file jointly on the US tax return.

We do not own any joint account in the foreign country. She has her own bank account in the foreign country, and I have my own.

 

Questions:

1. If she has > 10k USD in her bank account in the foreign country, does she need to file Fbar on her own?

I am guessing the answer depends on if she is a US person from the tax perspective (?!) Will filing tax return jointly or owning the ITIN make her become a US person so that she needs to file Fbar?

2. If the answer is yes for 1, she and I will file Fbar separately even we will file jointly on tax return, right? 

Thank you all for the help!

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Level 15
Dec 30, 2023 9:29:24 AM

@DirectSapphire 

 

1. If she has > 10k USD in her bank account in the foreign country, does she need to file Fbar on her own?

I am guessing the answer depends on if she is a US person from the tax perspective (?!) Will filing tax return jointly or owning the ITIN make her become a US person so that she needs to file Fbar?

 

If you are filing jointly, then you have already asked  her to be treated as a resident for tax purposes. ( a US Person ).  Therefore her world income, just like yours is subject to US taxes.  You may be able to take advantage of Foreign Earned Income Exclusion to exclude the income up to the max allowed and just pay foreign tax on that income.  It also means that both  FBAR ( form 114 at  www.FinCen.gov   ) and FATCA  ( form 8938  with your return ) come into play.  For FBAR, each filer files his/her own form

2. If the answer is yes for 1, she and I will file Fbar separately even we will file jointly on tax return, right? 

See answer above to  question  #1

 

Is there more I can do for you ?

 

pk

 

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Level 15
Dec 30, 2023 6:39:36 AM

I'll page @pk (again)

Level 15
Dec 30, 2023 9:29:24 AM

@DirectSapphire 

 

1. If she has > 10k USD in her bank account in the foreign country, does she need to file Fbar on her own?

I am guessing the answer depends on if she is a US person from the tax perspective (?!) Will filing tax return jointly or owning the ITIN make her become a US person so that she needs to file Fbar?

 

If you are filing jointly, then you have already asked  her to be treated as a resident for tax purposes. ( a US Person ).  Therefore her world income, just like yours is subject to US taxes.  You may be able to take advantage of Foreign Earned Income Exclusion to exclude the income up to the max allowed and just pay foreign tax on that income.  It also means that both  FBAR ( form 114 at  www.FinCen.gov   ) and FATCA  ( form 8938  with your return ) come into play.  For FBAR, each filer files his/her own form

2. If the answer is yes for 1, she and I will file Fbar separately even we will file jointly on tax return, right? 

See answer above to  question  #1

 

Is there more I can do for you ?

 

pk

 

Level 1
Dec 30, 2023 12:11:44 PM

Thank you. My questions are answered!