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Returning Member
posted May 2, 2021 12:38:24 PM

bad debt write off

How do I write off a bad debt in turbo tax.  I am looking for the process to enter the form. 

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Level 15
May 2, 2021 12:43:45 PM

Exactly what type of bad debt, and was it personal or business?

New Member
Jan 23, 2022 3:08:04 PM

How do I write off a bad debt?

Level 15
Jan 23, 2022 3:24:50 PM

@patdrouhard

Please clarify – are you asking where to claim a bad debt for a loan that you've made?   

If that's the question, please see the TurboTax Help article How to Report Non-Business Bad Debt on a Tax Return for entry guidance and more information.

If that’s not the question, please reply, and also state whether you’re using TurboTax Online or Desktop, and which version.

New Member
Jan 23, 2022 6:03:12 PM

yes, I am asking where and how to claim a bad debt for a loan that I made.  When I go to "How to Report Non-Business Bad Debt on a tax return," my Turbo Tax takes me through a stock sale process (Turbo Tax Desktop).  Also, how do I complete form 8949 on my desktop program (Home and Business edition).

Expert Alumni
Jan 23, 2022 6:47:41 PM

You were in the correct spot - Investment Income, Stocks, Mutual Funds, Bonds, Other.   When you go through that section and answer the questions, TurboTax automatically creates Form 8949 and includes it with your tax return.    Answer NO to the 'Did you receive a 1099-B for this sale'.    The cost (basis) is the amount of your worthless loan and the proceeds are what you have received on the loan, $0.    The description should have the name of the debtor/loan info.    Date Sold is the day it become worthless, must be in 2021 to file on this year's return.  

 

Be sure to mark the Holding Period as Box C - SHORT TERM, see image below

 

The debt must have been a bona fide loan—you gave the money with every expectation of being repaid. If you charged interest, and the borrower signed a promissory note, this provides a good indication that you expected to get your money back.   Otherwise, the IRS might consider the exchange to be a gift, particularly if the borrower is a friend or a family member. And gifts aren't tax deductible.

 

The debt must be worthless

The unpaid debt must be 100% worthless before you can deduct it. There must be no chance that the borrower can or will ever pay you back the amount of the loan. It is important to make a documented effort to collect your money with:

 

  • Letters
  • Invoices
  • Phone calls

 

Generally, you can't take a deduction for a bad debt from your regular income, at least not right away.  It's a short-term capital loss, so you must first deduct it from any short-term capital gains you have before deducting it from long-term capital gains.  Finally, you can deduct up to $3,000 of any remaining balance from other income. If a balance still remains, you can carry it over to subsequent years.

 

The IRS also requires that you attach a bad-debt statement to your tax return, explaining the details of the loan you made.  This can prevent e-filing as attachments cannot be e-filed with your return.  

 

@patdrouhard

 

 

New Member
Feb 14, 2022 5:05:27 PM

student loans

Expert Alumni
Feb 14, 2022 5:30:15 PM

@frapp49 If you mean you had a student loan that was cancelled, it will be reported to you on a form 1099-C. You enter that in TurboTax in the Wages and Income Section, then Less Common Income, then Miscellaneous Income, 1099-A, 1099-C. Choose the Cancellation of debt (Form 1099-C) option and then follow the instructions.

Returning Member
Feb 15, 2022 6:11:41 PM

business.  Client has owed me for 2 yrs

 

Returning Member
Feb 15, 2022 6:13:36 PM

No its not a loan.  Client was invoiced for work I preformed and was never paid for.

Returning Member
Feb 15, 2022 6:14:41 PM

Turbo Tax and Quickbooks Online.  I want to write it off my taxes

Returning Member
Feb 15, 2022 6:18:28 PM

Business, A client owes me for unpaid invoices.

Expert Alumni
Feb 15, 2022 7:05:06 PM

If you are a cash basis taxpayer, you don' t. If you are accrual based taxpayer that claimed the income 2 years ago, then you would take it back off provided you can prove your collection efforts.

 

See: 

New Member
Mar 8, 2024 10:41:19 AM

TURBO TAX WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO ENTER THE BAD DEBT WRITE OFF ON A COMPANY THAT TOOK MY DEPOSIT TO INSTALL A FENCE THEN WENT BANKREUP!

New Member
Mar 8, 2024 10:42:07 AM

IT WAS PERSONAL

Expert Alumni
Mar 8, 2024 12:25:21 PM

From Topic No. 453, Bad Debt Deduction:

If someone owes you money that you can't collect, you may have a bad debt. For a discussion of what constitutes a valid debt, refer to Publication 550, Investment Income and Expenses and Publication 334, Tax Guide for Small Business (For Individuals Who Use Schedule C). Generally, to deduct a bad debt, you must have previously included the amount in your income or loaned out your cash. If you're a cash method taxpayer (most individuals are), you generally can't take a bad debt deduction for unpaid salaries, wages, rents, fees, interests, dividends, and similar items of taxable income. For a bad debt, you must show that at the time of the transaction you intended to make a loan and not a gift.

 

Paying someone to install a fence is not a loan. Here are some helpful tips of what to do when a contractor doesn't finish the job.

@Swishman4619 

New Member
Apr 15, 2024 2:43:12 PM

Where do I claim loss for unpaid consulting fees?

New Member
Apr 15, 2024 2:44:59 PM

My customer did not pay me in full on my 1099 NEC. I have no expectation of payment and would like to claim the loss.

New Member
Apr 15, 2024 2:46:38 PM

I am using Home and Business desktop version and wish to claim loss on uncollectable consulting fees which were not paid on my 1099 NEC. Thanks!

 

Expert Alumni
Apr 15, 2024 3:46:32 PM

Per IRS Topic no. 453 regarding Bad debt deduction, if you're a cash method taxpayer (most individuals are), you generally can't take a bad debt deduction for unpaid fees. If you received a Form 1099-NEC showing a larger amount than what you were paid, you could contact the company or individual that issued it and have them correct it.  

@jayjay3cmu 

New Member
Mar 28, 2025 6:17:46 AM

made personal loan to business an now is a write off where to enter in turbo tax??

Expert Alumni
Mar 28, 2025 6:22:46 AM

If you made a personal loan that is now completely worthless and you made all attempts to collect, then you would write it off as a non business bad debt.

 

To do so select the following:

  1. Deductions and Credits
  2. Non Business Bad Debt under Other Deductions and Credits
  3. Walk through the steps and answer the questions on the debt.

How to Report Non-Business Bad Debt on a Tax Return