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Level 1
posted Mar 24, 2020 10:55:06 AM

If I have 2 children but can only claim 1 because he pays child support, but doesnt see them , will I only get credit for 1 kid for stimulus package check ?

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Level 15
Mar 24, 2020 10:59:54 AM

The questions about “stimulus checks” are beginning after a press conference that just happened on 3-17-2020.   So far this is a proposal that has not been finalized or voted on by Congress.  Please be patient until there is actual information to provide to you.  We cannot tell you if you will get a check, when you will get a check or how much it will be for.  No one knows yet.

Level 15
Mar 24, 2020 11:05:39 AM

"I have 2 children but can only claim 1 because he pays child support."

 

That's not how it works. 

 

The custodial parent has first priority on claiming the children on her taxes; regardless of the amount of support provided by the non-custodial parent. The IRS goes by physical custody, not legal custody. The non-custodial parent can only claim the child as a dependent if the custodial parent gives permission (on form 8332) or if it's spelled out in a pre 2009 divorce decree. (without conditions - usually the payment of child support). Even if a divorce decree, dated after 2008, gives the non-custodial parent the right to claim the child, he must still get form 8332 from the custodial parent. A properly worded decree should require her to provide that form. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8332.pdf

 

 Furthermore, there is a special rule in the case of divorced & separated (including never married) parents. When the non-custodial parent is claiming the child as a dependent/exemption/child tax credit; the custodial parent is still allowed to claim the same child for Earned Income Credit, Head of Household filing status, and day care credit. This "splitting of the child" is not available to parents who lived together at any time during the last 6 months of the year; then only one of you can claim the child for any tax reasons. The tax benefits may not be split in any other manner.

Note in particular that the non-custodial parent can never claim the Earned Income Credit, Head of Household filing status or the day care credit, based on that child, even when the custodial parent has released the dependency to him.

 

Ref: https://www.irs.gov/publications/p17#en_US_2017_publink1000170897

Scroll down to "Children of divorced or separated parents (or parents who live apart)"

Level 2
Mar 25, 2020 7:22:34 AM

I just gained custody of my 2 children in December 2019. Unfortunately, I am not able to claim them for my 2019 taxes because their mother had primary custody for most of 2019 (at that time I had joint managing conservatorship with standard possesion.....meaning I was the non custodial parent with rights to info to access kids medical, dental, education etc) so my question is now that I have primary custody through the courts, will I get the stimulus money for my 2 children. I dont see any reason why my ex-wife should receive it since she no longer has custody of them and this money is suppose to help during this current pandemic period while I am supporting my kids fulltime with no child support assistance from my ex-wife. Thoughts on this or a number to a government office to help answer this question?

Level 15
Mar 25, 2020 7:34:38 AM

 

The questions about “stimulus checks” are beginning after a press conference that just happened on 3-17-2020.   So far this is a proposal that has not been passed by Congress.  Right now it is in the Senate and still must be voted on by the House of Representatives.  Please be patient until there is actual information to provide to you.  We cannot tell you if you will get a check, when you will get a check or how much it will be for.  No one knows yet.

Returning Member
Mar 25, 2020 7:43:37 AM

I'm in the same boat. My kids lived overseas with their mother for all of 2018 and part of 2019. They moved back in with me in August of 2019 and have been living with me full-time since. Their mother stayed overseas. I know there have to be others out there with similar situations. Maybe the 2020 census could help with deciding who gets the child stimulus checks? I don't know about this. It definitely makes it tricky.

Level 2
Mar 25, 2020 8:08:12 AM

Hopefully, they will address this type of situation and not just blow us off.  I just want what is fair......receiving money for children a person does not support is not fair.

Level 2
Mar 25, 2020 8:10:53 AM

There has been a follow up since 3-17-2020 that defines who will get what etc. Please update your information.

Level 2
Mar 25, 2020 8:12:37 AM

Myblast post about updating information was directed to xmasbaby

Level 15
Mar 25, 2020 8:18:38 AM

@jaredtx2020 Thanks for the blast.   Has the House passed the bill unbeknownst to me?  Has the President signed it?  I better start listening to the news more.

Level 2
Mar 25, 2020 8:26:33 AM

Meant to type last not blast.....not trying to start a chat war here...lol. I just think your original post is a little curt as was your reply. If you had seen the news this morning or read the news you may want to update your information. It's not my job to educate you but if you are going to make bold statements at least be ready to make a civil articulate response and not one of a teenage child.

Returning Member
Mar 25, 2020 9:18:01 AM

Exactly! And my ex is refusing to pay child support (we're currently in a court battle about this). I'm already struggling to support our kids on my own. If she gets $1,000 for them when she refuses to send me money, it's just adding insult to injury. I really hope the government finds a way to get the money to the households where the kids CURRENTLY live. Basing payments on past tax info does not necessarily reflect what is happening in that household NOW.

New Member
Mar 25, 2020 2:07:04 PM

Wondering in a shared paremting situation how that works. I know I'm probably not seeing any stimulus money, however in a situation where shared parenting is the case and expenses are 50/50, it be nice to split that as well. 

Expert Alumni
Mar 25, 2020 2:13:42 PM

The senate has not yet voted on the newest package due to unemployment benefits. We are all just waiting. You can stay as up to date as us here, Coronavirus Tax Relief | Internal Revenue Service. Good luck!

Level 1
Mar 25, 2020 8:58:47 PM

Same here. Gained custody last month. He claimed kids last year. Now he is in jail! I take care of kids fulltime! He has no rights now. I have court order. Will he get the stimulus check for the kids? This is not fair as it is supposed to help the custodial parent in present times, as he has no rights now and i am the one who needs the help. He doesnt pay child support either! Where do i submit my proof of custody to? Because i guarantee youbhe will cash that check and me nor my kids will never see it!

New Member
Mar 26, 2020 2:53:36 AM

In same situation. Any luck finding answers?

New Member
Mar 26, 2020 5:39:05 AM

I think I get what the first person is asking. Will this be based on if a child is a qualifying child or a dependent child? 

my question is, everything says based on 2018 taxes. My ex moved June of 2018, divorce final January of 2019. We filed 2018 taxes together and 2019 taxes as single. How is it even ok to base on 2018 taxes when our situation has changed so greatly and we have both filed 2019 taxes as such? Will there be an option to get the check based on 2019 data? 

New Member
Mar 26, 2020 5:55:07 AM

Idk hoe it is in your state but I live in Florida and it doesn’t matter if the child father pays child support or not YOU CAN STILL FILE YOUR CHILD ON YOUR INCOME TAXES. If he doesn’t see your kids I sure hope the father of the kids you can’t claim doesn’t file them. If he hasn’t filed them I would amend my return for each year I didn’t claim a dependent. But that’s just my opinion.

Level 15
Mar 26, 2020 6:35:38 AM

this is a good tool from the Washington Post to determine how the stimulus checks will work.  

 

it's based on the bill the Senate passed last night and is subject to the House vote and the president's signature.

 

note it's based on your 2018 (or 2019) tax filing and the number of 'qualifying children" claimed on THAT return.  A 'qualifying child' is under the age of 17. 

 

stimuluscheck

 

 

Level 1
Mar 26, 2020 8:38:05 AM

my question is based on a qualifying child,  i have 2 kids now 17 and 20, both had birthdays already in 2020. so 1.   so will my 17 YO get the 500 because she was 16 in 2019. but turned 17 in march 2020. i did recieve the child tax credit for her.

2.  My 20yo son works full time and is a full time college student. i did not get the child tax credit for him, but my tax form says(Credit for other dependents) under his name on my tax form, i dont think having him on there helped me at all.  will he get  ($ 500 , 1200, or 0)

Level 15
Mar 26, 2020 9:12:50 AM

if you have filed 2019, appears they will use that income tax submission to determine payments (otherwise they will use 2018)

 

since your younger child was under 17 on Dec 31, 2019, you would receive $500 for that  child

 

only 'qualifying children' (i.e. those under 17 with a social security #) are eligible for the $500.   So children over 16, other relatives, etc. would NOT be eligible for the $500. 

 

The $500 is subject to your income.  There is a phase out once your income hits $150,000 (or $75,000 single).  So let's say your joint income is $170,000 and you have a qualifying child.  You'd think you'd receive $2900 ($1200 per adult and $500 per child).  But the payment is reduced by 5% for every dollar over $150,000.  So 5% of $20,000 is $1000, so the payment would be $1900. 

 

and all that assumes the House doesn't try to change anything before they vote.

Returning Member
Mar 26, 2020 11:40:38 AM

My ex claimed 1 child in 2018 but makes too much money to get a stimulus check. What happens with this child? And IRS does not know who has sole custody. And the info on sharing a child on taxes is wrong. A child can only be on one tax return.  For anything. The IRS would not process a return if the child is already on return. For any reason. 

Level 15
Mar 26, 2020 2:22:50 PM

see my example above.   There is a 5% phase out for HOH beginning at $112,500.  So if the parent plus the child should get $1700, then for each dollar beyond $112,500, the $1700 is reduced by a nickel.  

 

for example is the income is $120,000. then the payment is reduced to $1325

Returning Member
Mar 26, 2020 2:39:26 PM

I file HOH. Less than $65,000. My ex files single over $120000. He will get nothing. But last year he claimed one child because the court makes me give him a 8332 for one each year.   So he had 1 child for the child tax credit. I claimed 1. I have sole custody. They live with me. Also have a 18 year old that lives with me. Does he get $1200 too? He does file taxes. What happens to the lost child on the 8332 my ex filed with his taxes?

Level 15
Mar 26, 2020 2:57:39 PM

assume they are going to use your 2019 filing if that is available.  otherwise, they use 2018.

 

the $500 credit will only go to you for children under the age of 17 that were on your tax return. 

 

for the 18 year old, if he filed his own taxes and was not a dependent on yours, he gets the $1200 as well. 

 

if he was a dependent on YOUR tax return and filed his own return (doesn't appear to be your case, but wanted to state it in any event), he does not get the $1200 and you don't get the $500