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Level 2
posted Mar 13, 2020 9:40:29 AM

Annualization information not passed from Fed to MA, how to enter?

All of my income was in the 4th quarter, so that's when I made an estimated tax payment. I entered annualization information in my federal form so it was handled correctly there. That information (like anything beyond the very basics) was not passed to the MA form, so I'm getting hit with an underpayment penalty.

 

I can see the form 2210 in my MA return, but not edit it in Forms. It says it is calculated, but doesn't link back to tell me where the calculation came from.

 

There used to be a checkbox in the dialogs for entering an exception to penalties in past years, which is how I entered it before, this year that is gone. 

 

How can I tell the MA return to annualize my income?

 

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Expert Alumni
Mar 16, 2020 3:04:12 PM

Yes, you can return to this section of your return. Follow these steps to get there in TurboTax:

  • From the left menu, select State
  • Continue
  • Massachusetts click Continue/Edit
  • You should see You've Finished Your Massachusetts Return
  • Scroll down to Your Bottom Line and click Update
  • The third question in starts in with the Underpayment Penalty details

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Expert Alumni
Mar 13, 2020 1:47:40 PM

You will see the Underpayment Penalty Selections-- None apply

2018 Massachusetts Tax Liability- enter amount

Underpayment Penalty--see below

 

Level 2
Mar 15, 2020 3:54:00 PM

Yes, that would be lovely, and the way I handled it in past years. I wish it were that easy!

 

Now the dialog does not present a section on underpayment penalties at all, and if I navigate to that topic using the Topic List menu it takes me to a window titled "Apply refund to 2020 Estimated Tax?"  (pretty completely irrelevant, as far as I can tell), I can enter an amount to apply to 2020 estimated taxes. Clicking the Continue button takes me directly to "Your Massachusetts Bottom Line" with no further questions or choices related to underpayment penalties. It's as if the link in the "Topics List" is pointing to the wrong page. I don't know of another way to navigate to that point, and there is apparently no longer any way to report bugs. 

 

Thank you for responding!

Expert Alumni
Mar 16, 2020 3:04:12 PM

Yes, you can return to this section of your return. Follow these steps to get there in TurboTax:

  • From the left menu, select State
  • Continue
  • Massachusetts click Continue/Edit
  • You should see You've Finished Your Massachusetts Return
  • Scroll down to Your Bottom Line and click Update
  • The third question in starts in with the Underpayment Penalty details

Level 2
Mar 16, 2020 3:35:41 PM

I also discovered, just a few minutes ago. that if you squint your eye just right and click in the exact right pixel of the box on the form you can also enter annualization information directly on form m2210. Must of tried 50 times before hitting the right spot that opened up a data entry field. 

 

Thanks for your patience and help. 

Level 4
Mar 12, 2022 12:22:35 PM

Concerning if I should annualize my return for fed and state.  I assume I would have to annualize both to lessen the tax penalty assigned by both?  If I decide after checking option to annualize, can I back out of this later, and decide not to in the program?  I know I have to calculate income to each quarter, but do I have to do the same for interest and dividend income, and money made with exempt bond interest, etc?  My federal AGI, is much more than my state of Mass amount shown for the prepopulated field in annualization program for Mass. Have any idea why this is so?

Level 4
Mar 13, 2022 8:19:11 AM

Possible to get an answer? Thanks

Concerning if I should annualize my return for fed and state.  I assume I would have to annualize both to lessen the tax penalty assigned by both?  If I decide after checking option to annualize, can I back out of this later, and decide not to in the program?  I know I have to calculate income to each quarter, but do I have to do the same for interest and dividend income, and money made with exempt bond interest, etc?  My federal AGI, is much more than my state of Mass amount shown for the prepopulated field in annualization program for Mass. Have any idea why this is so?

Expert Alumni
Mar 14, 2022 11:53:28 AM

@sonzoil  The annualization has to be entered to reduce the penalty.  If all of your income lands in December you should be able to reduce your penalty.  If you change your mind and decide not to annualize you just need to go back and change the check box from annualize to don't annualize and you're all set.  

 

As for why Massachusetts income is lower than federal it would depend on what type of income you have in your return.  Massachusetts has different rules for what is taxable than the federal government, as well as what is deductible.