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Returning Member
posted Mar 18, 2020 3:17:25 PM

accrued US Treasuries discount handling on IL state tax

I see TurboTax has added US Treasuries Accrued Market Discount on Schedule B part 1 Interest for Federal tax. However, it is not showing on IL state Income tax return as subtraction.  How do I get this added on my state tax to get as exempt from income?

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Expert Alumni
Mar 22, 2020 11:05:19 AM

No, your US Treasuries Accrued Market Discount would not be a subtraction for Illinois. 

 

Please see 2019 Illinois IL-1040 Schedule M Additions and Subtractions Instructions page 3 quoted below:

Line 22 — U.S. Treasury bonds, bills, notes, savings bonds, and U.S. agency interest

Enter the income included in your Form IL-1040, Line 1, you received from U.S. Treasury bonds, bills, notes, savings bonds, U.S. agency interest, and other similar obligations from your

  • federal Form 1040 or 1040-SR, or
  • mutual fund statement plus

any income listed in Publication 101, Income Exempt from Tax, under

  • “What if I have income from obligations of the United States Government?”
  • “What federally-taxable income is exempt from Illinois Income Tax by other federal statutes?”
  • “What if I have distributions from money market trusts (mutual funds)?”

Mutual fund distributions

Include the entire amount of federally taxed distributions received from mutual funds investing exclusively in U.S. government obligations. If the mutual fund invests in U.S. government obligations and non-exempt obligations, your deduction is the distribution received from the mutual fund attributable to the U.S. government obligations, as determined by the mutual fund. If the mutual fund does not provide this percentage amount, multiply the total distribution by a fraction.

The numerator is the amount invested by the fund in exempt U.S. government obligations, and the denominator is the fund’s total investment.

  • This subtraction is the amount net of any related bond premium amortization.
  • Savings bond interest that is not included in your federal adjusted gross income is not an allowable subtraction.
  • Do not include your distributive share of a subtraction for U.S. government obligations from a partnership, an S corporation, a trust, or an estate on this line. Your distributive share of subtractions should be included on Line 14 of this schedule.

 

 

Returning Member
Apr 1, 2020 5:12:59 PM

I do not understand your reply.    Line 22 is for subtractions from income yet your response starts with "your US treasuries accrued market discount would not be a subtraction for Illinois".  

Level 1
Apr 14, 2020 12:31:42 PM

How come TT will not allow me to make any entry on line 22?

  I have calculated my distributive share of US government obligations from the percentages provided by my mutual funds, but TT will not allow me to enter this data on line 22.

Level 1
Mar 3, 2022 2:33:20 PM

You are wrong. US Savings Bond interest is deductible in Illinois and has been. Every year I think you are competent and will fix it but you do not. I always have to do the IL form without TurboTax or apply for a refund with a tax change form. No one in IL should use TurboTax.

Expert Alumni
Mar 3, 2022 3:45:49 PM

You are correct that US savings bond interest is not taxable, in any state. That is why, when you enter the interest in the federal section, you put it in box 3 for US savings bonds so the program will know it does not go on the state return. Are you entering the 1099-int amount in box 3 in the program and still having an issue?

 

@Mervstover

Level 1
Mar 4, 2022 8:10:57 AM

Thank you for the correct answer. I had not been using box 3. The form from treasury does not report it in box 3 but does state box 3 in wordage later. I have two questions. Why does TurboTax state that using other interest form is unusual and why does the following page say to click this if your state does not tax interest and then only lists a small number of states?

Returning Member
Apr 6, 2022 4:16:11 PM

Excuse me it DOES go on the IL 1040 as a SUBTRACTION on Sch M.  It MUST be subtracted from the federal net taxable income which is the starting point of the IL1040.   Unfortunately it does not work correctly in 2021 either.  I have entered the amount in box 3 and still nothing gets printed on the Sch M.  TT FIX YOUR SOFTWARE!!! 

New Member
Feb 11, 2023 8:34:43 AM

I'm having a similar issue... I purchased a US Treasury Note in the secondary market (at a discount) which matured in 2022.  The Accrued Market Discount for this Note is appearing on my Federal Schedule B, but is not flowing through to my Illinois Schedule M, line 22 for US Treasury Interest.

 

Do I need to adjust this manually somewhere in TT to capture the US Treasury tax exemption for Illinois on the Accrued Market Discount?  This Note was originally issued at a discount, although I haven't yet received a 1099-OID.

Expert Alumni
Feb 13, 2023 12:59:39 PM

The US Treasury Note Interest should be listed as a subtraction on your Illinois Schedule M.  You should not have to adjust the subtraction in TurboTax manually.  As AmyC stated, verify that you have entered the interest in Box 3 for US savings bonds.  To check this in TurboTax, follow these steps:

 

  1. Click Wage & Income
  2. Click Revisit on 1099-Int
  3. Click Type it myself
  4. Enter interest on US Savings bonds and Treas. obligations in box 3

@DownTownDru 

 

Level 2
Feb 28, 2023 10:17:00 AM

I entered $107.50 of treasury note income in 1099-INT Box 3, but the corresponding entry on MI Schedule 1 Line 10 is reduced to $82. Why is the interest amount reduced?

NOTE: I am in the 24% tax bracket...is the interest amount reduced for this reason?

Expert Alumni
Feb 28, 2023 11:09:34 AM

No, the reduction in line 10 entry is due to a related expense, not to your tax rate. 

 

Do you have an entry for bond premium in box 12 of your 1099-INT? If yes, the line 10 amount will reduced by the amount of the bond premium. 

Level 2
Feb 28, 2023 11:29:34 AM

Thanks for your response, however, Box 12 is "0" (no bond premium on treasury obligations).

Expert Alumni
Feb 28, 2023 11:39:33 AM

Do you have any adjustments related to your bond income? 

Level 2
Feb 28, 2023 11:40:51 AM

FYI, I bought the Treasury Bond at a discount (face value = $10K). I paid $9995.70 for the bond plus $50.54 accrued interest.

Level 2
Feb 28, 2023 11:41:57 AM

I have adjustments for other (non Treasury) bond income

Expert Alumni
Feb 28, 2023 12:01:52 PM

According to Michigan's DOR: "This subtraction must be reduced by related expenses used to arrive at AGI." 

 

The worksheet used for this field says: "From federal Schedule B, Interest and Dividend Income, Interest Income Smart Worksheet, Box 3, US Savings Bond/Treasury Obligations PLUS federal 1099-DIV Worksheet, Box 1a, U.S. Government Interest less related adjustments."
 

This means the adjustment can related to other bonds or exempt interest dividends. 

Level 2
Feb 28, 2023 1:39:50 PM

I have only unrelated adjustments, no related adjustments. So remains a mystery?

Expert Alumni
Feb 28, 2023 1:50:16 PM

According to the Michigan DOR it is a related deduction if it reduces your federal AGI. 

Level 3
Feb 15, 2024 12:20:27 PM

It's too late now to fix your problem for last years' taxes, but I just ran into the same problem this year, and I can tell you what's happening. If you have a 1099-INT with multiple line items, i.e. entries for both non-government and government interest, and then you add an adjustment, TurboTax doesn't ask you to identify which line item the adjustment applies to, it just pro-rates it across the multiple entries. I don't have a way to prove this theory, but in my case the numbers passed to my state return match this.

 

Did anyone figure out how to get TurboTax to pass "Accrued Market Discount" to the state return properly as US Government interest? I've called TurboTax support 3 times but have had no success in getting an answer.

Expert Alumni
Feb 23, 2024 11:57:51 AM

I was unable to re-create this issue, can you provide some details, and what state return(s) you are filing?  @Greg Brown 

 

The accrued interest is taxable to the seller, whereas the interest that is earned from the date of purchase to the end of the year is taxable to you.   However, at year-end, you will receive a Form 1099-INT Interest Income showing the total interest received during the tax year.   This total interest amount will include the accrued interest that is taxable to the seller and the interest that is taxable to you.   Therefore, you must note the portion of this interest income that is accrued interest, which is then deducted from your total interest to show the amount attributable to you.

 

If the interest is tax-exempt, then the total interest is not taxable; however, if some of the tax-exempt interest falls under the definition of accrued interest as mentioned above, it must be taken into account.  The amount of tax-exempt accrued interest must be subtracted from the total tax-exempt interest in order to find the amount of tax-exempt interest that is attributable to you.

Level 3
Feb 23, 2024 1:53:33 PM

The state taxes were for Hawaii. Unlike what some others have reported, I was unable to edit or override any of the federal data transferred to my state return within TurboTax.

Expert Alumni
Feb 29, 2024 11:27:17 AM

You could take it as a subtraction on the HI return. You can enter any federally taxed income that is not taxed by Hawaii.

@Greg Brown

 

 

Returning Member
Mar 8, 2024 12:44:20 PM

For whatever reason, I cannot find these input screen in my Maryland State TT. Are  these standard across all the State TT programs?

Expert Alumni
Mar 9, 2024 7:08:21 PM

Are you asking how to ensure that Treasury interest is not reported as income on a Maryland return?

 

As other users in this discussion thread have mentioned, if Treasury interest is reported in Box 3 of Form 1099-INT, then it should automatically be excluded from State income, since it is excluded from all states' income.

 

Each state return in TurboTax has a customized questionnaire based on that state's laws. 

 

If you had income from Treasury obligations, and you were not a full-year resident of Maryland, the questionnaire will ask you to enter how much of the Treasury interest income was from outside Maryland.

 

After asking about any part-year resident allocations, the Maryland questionnaire will display a screen with a complete list of items treated differently by Maryland. Choose the Start button next to any that apply to your situation.

 

See this Comptroller of Maryland webpage for more information about Maryland state taxes for 2023.