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New Member
posted Jun 1, 2019 8:34:51 AM

Why is tax liability $1500 higher on a cashed out IRA belonging to husband than if it belonged to me?

Husband cashed out an IRA and we owe taxes. I mistakenly ticked my name as the owner, and when I went to correct it and tick my husband’s name the tax liability increased $1500! We are married filing jointly. Why would the tax liability increase depending on who’s account it was if we are married filing jointly?

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Level 15
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:26 AM

Taxable amount is reduced and shown as described when you (the spouse) have a prior years basis in your IRA but your husband does not.

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New Member
Jun 1, 2019 8:34:53 AM

Is one of you over 59-1/2 and the other one not?

New Member
Jun 1, 2019 8:34:55 AM

No, we are both well under 59-1/2

Level 15
Jun 1, 2019 8:35:01 AM

sometimes the Refund Meter gets a bit behind.
Did you cash out $15,000 ??

New Member
Jun 1, 2019 8:35:30 AM

No - it was more than that. We had 22% taxes on the amount withheld at the time of withdrawal.

Level 9
Jun 1, 2019 8:35:36 AM

To be honest, we could sit here all day long and speculate.  Since you have the download version, go into Forms mode and look at the tax return to see what changes when you switch the distribution from one spouse to the other.

New Member
Jun 1, 2019 8:35:37 AM

Ok - so I did that just now. When it is entered under me, the taxable amount (1040 line 4b) is $4387 less than line 4a (the actual amount that was cashed out). When entered under my husband, there is nothing entered on line 4a, and the full amount of the cash out is listed on line 4b. So - our total taxable income is reduced $4387 when entered as my cash out versus my husband's.

Level 15
Jun 1, 2019 8:35:38 AM

You must answer all the follow up questions after entering the 1099-R. If you are just entering the 1099-R without answering the follow up questions, you may get a different result than when you answer the followup questions.

Level 9
Jun 1, 2019 8:35:48 AM

Forget line 4a (since the IRS changed tax forms this year, the reporting in line 4a vs. 4b has gotten very confusing), the only thing that matters is 4b.

And just to make sure, all you are doing is switching the 1099r from one spouse to another, and not changing anything else about the 1099r?

Level 9
Jun 1, 2019 8:35:51 AM

To @Texas Roger point, go through the full question cycle if the distribution is reported under each spouse, making sure you answer all questions identically.

New Member
Jun 1, 2019 8:35:52 AM

I do answer all of the questions after changing between me and my husband (it asks if we used the money for various things, disaster relief etc, there's like 10 questions each). And yes - the only thing that is switched is selecting the radio button with either my name or my husband's name, no other info about the 1099r is changed, and Line 4b is lower when my name is selected.

Level 15
Jun 1, 2019 8:35:53 AM

There is no reason for the taxable amount to be different. Try contacting TurboTax directly to see if their support group can help find the issue: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1899263-what-is-the-turbotax-phone-number">https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1899263-what-is-the-turbotax-phone-number</a>

Level 15
Jun 1, 2019 8:35:55 AM

Be sure to check your birthdates in My Info.

Level 9
Jun 1, 2019 8:35:57 AM

If you still have problems after contacting support, let us know, and we will have some one reach out to you so you can provide a diagnostic file.

New Member
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:11 AM

Our bdays are correct, thanks for that suggestion though because I can see how that might affect it if entered incorrectly.

I’m at work right now but will contact support this evening. Thanks.

New Member
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:24 AM

I fixed it! I went back to where I entered my IRA basis info (post-tax contributions to my own personal IRA last year) and realized I had the box checked that my husband also contributed to an IRA last year, which he didn't. So I unchecked that box and the taxes owed went down!

Level 15
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:26 AM

Taxable amount is reduced and shown as described when you (the spouse) have a prior years basis in your IRA but your husband does not.

Level 9
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:27 AM

This might be it

New Member
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:28 AM

Ahhhh. So in 2017 I did take an early distribution from my IRA, it was much much less than the one my husband took in 2018 (2017 was due to a period of unemployment, 2018 was for a down payment on a house). We were married filing jointly in 2017 as well. Why does that impact the taxable income in the following year for a married couple?

Level 15
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:30 AM

i said prior years basis, not prior years distribution. I guess you don't have a basis in your IRA. Do you ?

New Member
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:32 AM

I don’t think so, but I’m not sure I understand what a basis is.

Level 9
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:33 AM

A basis is an after-tax contribution to the IRA.  If you didn't make such a contribution, unfortunately @fanfare isn't explaining it.

Level 15
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:49 AM

if you have a basis, or TurboTax mistakenly thinks you have a basis, your tax would be reduced.
Enter the distribution under your name, then check the forms in your return to see if Form 8606 is included. Form 8606 does the calculation.

Level 15
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:51 AM

If you have a basis, TurboTax would also ask you for the year end value of your IRA.
There is probably something else going on here.

Level 15
Jun 1, 2019 8:36:53 AM

if you are taking the $10,000 penalty exemption for a home purchase, perhaps it is not being applied when you switch owners from  the  the first owner entered to the other spouse