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New Member
posted Jan 31, 2021 4:53:30 PM

Why did my refund decrease after I entered stimulus check info?

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Level 15
Jan 31, 2021 5:42:26 PM

When you begin entering your information into TurboTax, the program assumes that you haven't received stimulus payment, so it begins by with the assumption that you're eligible for the maximum amount, based on the initial information you've entered.

When you enter the amount of stimulus you've actually received, it adjusts your refund to account for that.

The IRS requires you to report all relevant stimulus information when you’re filing your return.

Level 1
Feb 25, 2021 8:03:35 AM

I'm using TT Deluxe 2020 from Costco (CD). Checked for all updates. TT still doesn't give me anywhere to enter the amount of stimulus I received (full amount ). It's doubly important as I live in a state w/ state income tax. Wouldn't want to short them on their slice. Also discovered a seemingly endless loop in CSA-1099-R input. I've never experienced this many flaws. ?????

Expert Alumni
Feb 25, 2021 8:44:49 AM

TurboTax still does not give me anywhere to enter the amount of stimulus I received.

 

If you have not received one or both of your stimulus checks, you will receive your payment in the form of a Recovery Rebate Credit on line 30 of your 2020 Federal tax return when you file.

 

TurboTax will compare your one or two stimulus payment amounts to the computations within TurboTax.  The computations within TurboTax are based upon the information that you have entered into the tax software.  If you are due an additional amount, it will be issued as a Recovery Rebate Credit (RRC) on line 30 of the 2020 1040 tax return.

 

In TurboTax Online, you are prompted to input stimulus check 1 and stimulus check 2 information under Review down the left hand side of the screen.

 

You can access your stimulus check choices by following these steps: 

  • Down the left side of the screen, click on Federal.
  • Across the top of the screen, click on Other Tax Situations.
  • At the screen Let’s keep going to wrap up.  Click on Let’s keep going.
  • At the screen Let’s make sure you got the right stimulus amount, click Continue.
  • At the screen Did you get a stimulus payment? you can update your stimulus check entries.

See also this TurboTax Help.

 

Why did my refund decrease after I entered stimulus check info?

 

Before you enter the amount of the stimulus payments at the screen Did you get a stimulus payment?, you have been given the full Recovery Rebate Credit (the equivalent of the two stimulus payments).   This can be found on line 30 of the 2020 Federal tax return.  At this point, this is an 'incomplete' Recovery Rebate Credit.

 

You can see this on the screen Great news! You qualify for the stimulus credit.  The amount is displayed in the center of the page.

 

After you enter stimulus payment 1 and stimulus payment 2, the credit is offset by the stimulus payments and the 'incomplete' Rebate Recovery Credit is reduced or eliminated.

 

See this TurboTax Help.

 

I discovered a seemingly endless loop in CSA-1099-R input.

 

Recommend deleting the entry and re-entering.

Level 1
Feb 25, 2021 11:09:21 AM

This is closer to an answer. Stimulus..... I've received both. Nowhere to input that fact. Perhaps my income is to high to have received them but the system isn't designed to accommodate this.??

About CSA-1099-R....I've tried to "re-enter" it several times. Won't accept the change. Still and endless loop. The question is about the the years of service exclusions,and won't allow "none of the above" to be saved when entered.???? BTW on mother-in-laws return the same question worked properly???????

Level 1
Feb 25, 2021 11:25:09 AM

These instructions for ONLINE version don't help much on the CD version. You'd think they would be the same. (and I did check and update)

Expert Alumni
Feb 25, 2021 11:37:22 AM

In TurboTax Online, are you able to access your stimulus payment amounts by following these steps? 

  • Down the left side of the screen, click on Federal.
  • Across the top of the screen, click on Other Tax Situations.
  • Scroll to the bottom of the screen.  Click on Let’s keep going.
  • At the screen It looks like you  qualified for the stimulus, did you get any payments?, click Yes.
  • At the screen Let's double-check the amount you received you can update your stimulus check entries.

For the CSA-1099-R, at the screen Any periodic payments?, did you click Yes?

At the screen Payment Start Year, did you select Yes, I started getting payments in 2020?

At the screen Let's Figure Out How Much is Taxable, did you select I need to figure out how much of this is taxable?

Do you have the annuity information available to you?

Has the recipient reached the retirement age for the plan?

Expert Alumni
Feb 25, 2021 1:04:40 PM

@Whizkid151

 

In TurboTax Desktop Home & Business, are you able to access your stimulus payment amounts by following these steps? 

  • Across the top of the screen, click on Personal.
  • Across the top of the screen, click on Deductions & credits.
  • At the screen How do you want to enter your deductions and credits? click on I'll choose what I work on.
  • Under Your 2020 Deductions & Credits, scroll down to the bottom and click on Done with Deductions.
  • Click on Continue.
  • At the screen Here are your 2020 Deductions & Credits, click on Continue.
  • Click until you reach Other Tax Situations.  Scroll to the bottom and click on Done with Other.
  • At the screen It looks like you qualified for the stimulus. Click Yes.
  • At the screen Let's double-check the amount you received you can update your stimulus check entries.

Level 1
Feb 25, 2021 2:14:08 PM

You lost mine at "looks like you've qualified...........". NO option to enter any check amounts.

Expert Alumni
Feb 25, 2021 2:36:23 PM

After you clicked Done with Other,

Did you arrive at the screen It looks like you qualified for the stimulus, did you get any payments?

 

If not, what does the screen say?

 

@Whizkid151

Level 1
Feb 26, 2021 11:55:53 AM

After "other....", I click done and it goes to "We're ready to Review your Fed........"  Have you entered all your tax forms or papers?     Yes  or No?

Level 1
Feb 26, 2021 2:28:35 PM

@JamesG1  Hadn't noticed this trick yet. Appreciate your help thus far. Still struggling. Wonder if going to beginning and removing the largest income stream would get to the stimulus tools. Get them entered then replace the missing part. Or would that just blow the whole thing up?

Level 10
Feb 27, 2021 7:05:32 PM

 

At the top of your tax return select Federal Review

 

 

That will take you to this screen where it asks if you have already received your stimulus payments.  If you received the first or second payment already, then select Yes and fill in the information.  If you did not receive any payment select No.  If you received the first payment only, fill in that amount and put zero (0) for the second payment.

 

When the screen is correct, you refund will be adjusted for the amount of stimulus payment that will be added to your 2020 refund.

 

 In some cases, TurboTax starts with assuming you did not receive any stimulus payments and starts your refund with the full amount of both payments.  Then  when you enter payments, the amount of refund decreases or amount owed increases.  The payments are an advance on the 2020 tax return.

 


@Whizkid151

Level 1
Feb 28, 2021 4:23:15 PM

@MaryM428  Swing and a miss. This has recommended before. At "Fed Rev....."  It starts with Have you put in all your tax forms? No mention of stimulus.

Level 1
Mar 1, 2021 5:27:53 PM

@MaryM428  If my income disqualifies me ( I had a far better year than last year, the basis for my receiving the stimulus money ) and I have already received both stimulus deposits. I just want to input this data, as I assume it means I will have to pay it all back. BTW nothing in line 30, as some have suggested. Does anyone know how to do this????? I can only think to start a new return, fill in the checks first, then do my income. Will that freak TT out??

Expert Alumni
Mar 1, 2021 6:29:43 PM

You do not have to pay it back; you get to keep it.  Since you qualified based on your lower 2019 income, it doesn't matter if you did well in 2020 and don't qualify now.  Congrats, you are a rare case in 2020, but the IRS has stated that payments do not have to be repaid.    You are not going to get the stimulus questions in TurboTax if you do not qualify based on your 2020 income.   Keep in mind, you are dealing with the IRS and that is what they have said.   I make no promises as to what they may say later, but I highly doubt they will backtrack on that.    @Whizkid151

 

If you want to return it, you can, but you are not required to.  What should I do to return an Economic Impact Payment (EIP) that was received as a direct deposit or a paper check? (added February 10, 2021)

Level 1
Mar 2, 2021 7:43:55 AM

@DawnC  Thank you so much for the response. I've been grinding on this for about 10 days now. I wondered early on, if that might be the case. Then I got lost in a fog of so many different responses. Should have stuck with my original perspective, " If it was a thing, TT probably would have it covered ( or not if not needed )".

New Member
Apr 6, 2021 2:53:40 PM

If it isnt taxable, we shouldnt have to add it on taxes. their getting all their money back, so we werent given a thing. haha. doesnt take a brain to figure that out.

Employee Tax Expert
Apr 6, 2021 3:10:15 PM

It isn't taxable actually.  

 

The stimulus checks have no bearing on the income reported on your tax return.  However, it is used to calculate the Recovery Rebate Credit which is why it is needed when you prepare your income tax return.  

 

The Recovery Rebate credit is calculated on your 2020 income tax return and is dependent upon what was entered into the program. If you were eligible for both stimulus payments but did not receive them or received less than you were entitled to, you would have received the credit if you met all of the other requirements. 

 

The amount of this credit is used to offset any existing tax due.  If there is excess credit remaining after being applied to your tax due, you will be refunded for the excess amount.

 

Please see the attached link for more information on who can claim the credit.

 

Recovery Rebate Credit eligibility

 

@Lori601

Returning Member
Jan 8, 2022 10:42:25 PM

@Lori601   I know right! I really don't get this... If it is non-taxable or (we get to keep it) why did my refund drop exactly $1400? I typed in my annual earned income, my dependents etc. etc) and ended up with my estimated refund amount. Then entered my $1400 stimulus amount where prompted and !!POOF!! REFUND DROPS/LOSES $1400? 🤔 guess ima need those layman's terms.

Level 15
Jan 9, 2022 1:28:48 AM

@Elowe1941 You are not understanding the flow of the information in your tax software.   The software STARTS OUT by giving you the $1400 3rd stimulus payment.   So poof there is the $1400 in your refund from the beginning.   Then later when you enter the fact that you already received it last year, the software has to remove the credit because you cannot get the $1400 twice.

Level 15
Jan 9, 2022 4:29:25 AM

What happens is the program gives you the entire stimulus credit once you completed just the MY INFO tab based off of how many people are on the return.   Then the credit  is reduced by the amount of the credit you got in advance when you finally get to that section at the end of the interview. 

 

FYI ... this also happens with the CTC ... the entire credit is put in the refund amount estimate when you entered qualifying children in the MY INFO tab at the beginning of the interview and then when you are finally asked how much you got in advance later in the Deductions & Credits section  the refund shown is reduced accordingly. 

 

And also for the EIC ... once you have qualifying dependents and income on the return you are then brought to the EIC questions and told you get the EIC but the refund meter doesn't change ... that is because the credit was already in the refund amount shown before you got to  the EIC section.  What could have happened at that point (after you answer some questions)  is the credit is removed if you no longer  qualify which is not a happy thing.  

 

Not the most user friendly way to do this but this is how the program has been set up for decades and I doubt it will change now.

Level 1
Jan 29, 2022 8:45:56 PM

Yup everyone I know who did there taxes and showed on screen what they were getting so far, and when they entered the 3rd stimulus amount it deducted it from there refund. Nothing is free for The American Citzens!

Expert Alumni
Jan 30, 2022 6:05:42 AM

@Sdlewis1223

 

The computation of the Recovery Rebate Credit is a two-step process.  You are able to observe what is happening at each step on line 30 of your Federal 1040.

 

Early in the program, TurboTax software computes whether you qualify for the $1,400 third stimulus check and gives you immediate credit for the third stimulus check. 

 

You are able to view this Recovery Rebate Credit on line 30 of the Federal 1040 under Tax Tools / Tools / View Tax Summary / Preview my 1040.

 

You enter the third stimulus check actually received at the screen Let's double-check the amount you received

 

Then the Recovery Rebate Credit on line 30 becomes $0.  You may also view this under Tax Tools / Tools / View Tax Summary / Preview my 1040.

New Member
Feb 13, 2022 1:05:08 AM

Hi,  I am so so so upset, I have been crying all day. It says on my federal i should be getting 2400 back. Now with the  3rd stimulus check I got now, I am getting 400. I just dont understand. Every paycheck I had money taken out for my federal government and I count on that return at the end of the year. So basically the goverment gave me money when i needed it and now wants some back. If i had know they were going to take it out of my return I would of sent it back. I feel so hurt.  Why is this happening? 

 

Thank you

Kehaulani Batista