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Level 2
posted Jun 4, 2019 4:26:36 PM

TurboTax adds the difference in my inventory value from 1/1 to 12/31 into my COGS. My COGS should only be the amount I spent to create my product. Why is it doing that?

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Not applicable
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:50 PM

here's the problem.  you been handling these costs as an accountant advised you.  I think he/she was wrong.  However, the IRS doesn't just let you change accounting methods without notifying them by filing form 3115.   this is not an easy thing to handle so you would probably need the help of a professional.  the way I think the costs should have been handled even though the books won't be produced until a future year, if ever, would be to add these costs to you year end inventory amount.   then if you produce the books, you allocate these costs to them so you expense the design costs as the books are sold.   if you decide not to produce the books, in the year you make the decision, you write off these costs.   

if audited, the  IRS could look at how your handling these costs and decide its wrong or not even look at this,  Even if they decide it's wrong, they could decide its not worth it to make you change.  

you have 4 choices

1) continue using the method you have been using realizing that the IRS could change your method 

2) change without filing 3115. not really advisable. the tax consequences of the IRS possibly disallowing the change or using a different method then what I think is proper could result in additional taxes, penalties and interest 

3) change the 2018 return to use the new method and prepare the 3115 yourself (see 4 for what needs to be changed and rad the instructions for the form).   if you mess up, the IRS could deny the change requiring you to amned the return back to the old method. if you owe there will also be penalties and interest 

4) change using a professional.  expIain to him what you are currently doing with regard to these costs (don't mention what I suggest) and ask him if he sees a problem and recommends changing. if he does, then get a quote since doing all the work necessary including  preparing the form could be time consuming (costly).  two things would need to be changed. the amortization of past costs  and recomputing inventory using the new method.    

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Alumni
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:38 PM

Not if you keep an inventory.  Are you truly keeping an inventory?  You buy or create things and hold them for sale at a later date?

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:39 PM

Yes, I am a publisher. I have a garage full of books that I sell. In the Income&Expenses>Inventory section, I have entered my beginning 2018 inventory as 38,635, and my end 2018 inventory as 31,615. A difference of 7020. Then, on the next screen, I entered 7495 as my Cost of Purchases. Then on the next screen, it says that COGS is 14,515. COGS should not include the 7020. Why would the difference between the value of my inventory have anything to do with COGS?

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:40 PM

Turbo Tax added the difference in my inventory value to my Cost of Purchases. I don't understand why it would do that. The difference in inventory value is not a cost. It is just the difference in the value of what I have my garage. In other words, I sold 7020 worth of product. That is not COGS.

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:42 PM

Whoa. Wait a minute. I suppose the 7020 does represent the cost of what I sold. But then what is Cost of Purchases? I keep track of what it costs to produce each book (design, printing, etc), then I multiply that by the number of books I sell, then I entered that under Cost of Purchases. So, it seems I have been entering the cost for those sold books twice. So confused.

Alumni
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:48 PM

@Critter#2  or @Opus 17   you are both better at explaining this than I am, can you assist?

Not applicable
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:50 PM

here's the problem.  you been handling these costs as an accountant advised you.  I think he/she was wrong.  However, the IRS doesn't just let you change accounting methods without notifying them by filing form 3115.   this is not an easy thing to handle so you would probably need the help of a professional.  the way I think the costs should have been handled even though the books won't be produced until a future year, if ever, would be to add these costs to you year end inventory amount.   then if you produce the books, you allocate these costs to them so you expense the design costs as the books are sold.   if you decide not to produce the books, in the year you make the decision, you write off these costs.   

if audited, the  IRS could look at how your handling these costs and decide its wrong or not even look at this,  Even if they decide it's wrong, they could decide its not worth it to make you change.  

you have 4 choices

1) continue using the method you have been using realizing that the IRS could change your method 

2) change without filing 3115. not really advisable. the tax consequences of the IRS possibly disallowing the change or using a different method then what I think is proper could result in additional taxes, penalties and interest 

3) change the 2018 return to use the new method and prepare the 3115 yourself (see 4 for what needs to be changed and rad the instructions for the form).   if you mess up, the IRS could deny the change requiring you to amned the return back to the old method. if you owe there will also be penalties and interest 

4) change using a professional.  expIain to him what you are currently doing with regard to these costs (don't mention what I suggest) and ask him if he sees a problem and recommends changing. if he does, then get a quote since doing all the work necessary including  preparing the form could be time consuming (costly).  two things would need to be changed. the amortization of past costs  and recomputing inventory using the new method.    

Not applicable
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:52 PM

cost of goods sold is supposed to represent your cost of the books sold. 

"I keep track of what it costs to produce each book (design, printing, etc), then I multiply that by the number of books I sell"  I'm assuming what you're saying is that if you produce some books for $4 and some for $12 you compute the cost of sales by multiplying the number of $4 books sold by $4 and the number of $12 books sold by $12. 

so Beginning inventory 

+ cost of production of books for the year

- cost of books sold during the year

= ending inventory

so if beginning inventory is $38,635 and current year production costs were $7,495 your inventory before any sales would be $46,130.   if you properly valued the ending inventory at $31,615  that means you disposed of inventory having a cost of $14,515 which is the cost of goods sold. 

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:54 PM

Thanks for clear reply and help!

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:55 PM

Yes, you assumed correctly. I produce some books for $4 and some for $12. I compute the cost of books sold by multiplying the number of each sold each year by the unique cost to produce each.

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:56 PM

The 7495 was the actual cost of the books that I sold.

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:58 PM

But, I did not spend the 7495 in 2018...

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:26:59 PM

As mentioned above, the 7495 represents the cost of the books sold. The 7495 was spent in years past as I was creating the books.

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:27:01 PM

I'm answering in small bits because I keep getting banned from the forum and losing everything I type.

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:27:02 PM

So, should I not be claiming the 7495 as a Cost of Purchases? (since it was money spent in past years)

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:27:04 PM

I did not spend anything on past books in 2018, but I did spend money on future books in 2018. Would that go into cost of purchases, even though those books are not published yet, and probably won't be published for a few more years?

Not applicable
Jun 4, 2019 4:27:09 PM

if $7495 is the actual cost of the books sold than that should be cost of goods sold

you beginning inventory is $38,635

you spent an unstated amount for current year production  that amount, if any, should be purchases

$38535 + purchases - the $7495 cost of books sold should be the cost of your ending inventory 

if you spent nothing for purchases during the year, your ending inventory would be $31,140

cgs  section

beginning inventory   $38635

ending inventory  $31140

cost of goods sold $7495 which should appear on line 4 of schedule C

on the other hand say you spent $5,000 in 2018 for production costs

then 

beginning inventory   $38635

purchases $5000

ending inventory $36140   (38635+5000-7495)

cost of goods sold $7495



however, your ending inventory could be lower.     say $500 worth of books were destroyed by mold , water, whatever.

or say you threw out $500 worth of books because they were no longer salable

then you ending inventory would be $500 lower and the cost of sales would be $500 higher.  yes, i know, the $500 wasn't sold but this is how it works, terminology aside.  .


hope i've been helpful.  

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:27:11 PM

Thanks TaxPro+40...this is getting clearer. So, even if my 2018 purchases are for future book production and have nothing to do with current books that I'm selling, I should still enter that amount (which was about $2700 in 2018) in "Cost of Purchases"? Am I correct that expenses entered as "Cost of Purchases" should only be for production costs (design work in this case) for books that I may someday (in this case, 2020) keep in inventory? Not for expenses such as shipping boxes, tape, etc?

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:27:12 PM

Essentially, even though my 2018 investments (cost of purchases) are not material investments (they're just for design work), they contribute to the value of my inventory in the future, and so should be added as such?

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:27:13 PM

Working with one accountant in the past, I was told to amortize those types of expenses and include them under miscellaneous expenses. So, my taxes have had like 30 different amortizing purchases of non-material investments, all at different stages of maturity, from 30 years of hiring designers and other similar help. Was that all a big mistake?

Level 2
Jun 4, 2019 4:27:15 PM

I would appreciate help reaching a conclusion on my question. Should I enter expenses for non-material services such as design work that will not contribute to my salable items until years in the future...in the "cost of purchases" area? Or should I amortize this type of expense somewhere else? thanks, TT

Not applicable
Jun 4, 2019 4:27:16 PM

what method do you use to value closing inventory as indicated on schedule C Cost of goods sold section