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New Member
posted Jun 6, 2019 1:21:34 AM

The distribution code H on my 1099R for a Roth 401k rollover, doesn't match the TT code H. 1099 says H=Direct rollover of designated Roth account distribution to Roth IRA

Distribution code G on my 1099 is described as "Direct rollover or a distribution to a qualified plan...or an IRA". However, in Turbo Tax; distribution code G = "Direct rollover and rollover contribution".  The consequence of this difference changes my Federal Tax Due amount by more that $65,000!!  I definitely rolled these funds directly from my 401k into a qualified plan and it is NOT a taxable event. Please HELP!!

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Level 15
Jun 6, 2019 1:21:35 AM

Code G & H are not the same.   Do not use a code G.

If your 1099-R has code H then use code H in TurboTax.    Code G is for a regular 401(k), NOT a 401(k) Roth.

Level 15
Jun 6, 2019 1:21:37 AM

I'm confused, what code is on the Form 1099-R provided by the payer?
Is the IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box marked?

You should be entering into TurboTax whatever codes and markings are shown in the Form 1099-R provided by the payer.

Level 15
Jun 6, 2019 1:21:38 AM

Right - use the code that is on the 1099-R - Do you think it is incorrect?

New Member
Jun 6, 2019 1:21:41 AM

I got two 1099s - one for a traditional 401k directly rolling over into a qualified IRA and another for a Roth 401k directly rolling into a qualified Roth IRA.  Neither even should be taxable, but when i use code G in TT it increased my tax owed by more than $65,000 - - this simply cannot be right.

Level 15
Jun 6, 2019 1:21:43 AM

Does the code G Form 1099-R have a zero in box 2a?  Is it blank?
Is box 2b Taxable amount not determined marked?

Make sure that you selected code G in only one of TurboTax's box 7 drop-down boxes and left the other one blank.
Make sure that you did not inadvertently mark the IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box on this form in TurboTax.

New Member
Jun 6, 2019 1:21:44 AM

2a = $0 on both Roth and Traditional

Level 15
Jun 6, 2019 1:21:46 AM

I'm not aware of any way to make a Form 1099-R with code G in box 7 and a zero in box 2a cause a change in your refund or balance due.  Have you tried deleting and reentering the code G form 1099-R?

New Member
Jun 6, 2019 1:21:47 AM

That does seem to make it "look right" but here is what shows on the back of my 1099:

G--Direct rollover of a distribution to a qualified plan, a section 403(b) plan, a governmental section 457(b) plan, or an IRA. H--Direct rollover of a designated
Roth account distribution to a Roth IRA

These descriptions seem accurate, but Turbo Tax has different definitions

Level 15
Jun 6, 2019 1:21:49 AM

TurboTax's text has the same meaning.

Level 15
Jun 11, 2019 10:03:12 AM

It's is just abbreviated due to space limitations.

New Member
Jun 11, 2019 10:03:13 AM

Thanks to all - - but isn't it correct that NEITHER direct rollover should result in a taxable event?

Level 15
Jun 11, 2019 10:03:15 AM

Here’s a shot of Turbo Tax box 7 codes.  They might be worded differently but they are the same.

New Member
Jun 11, 2019 10:03:16 AM

Thank you. That is what I see...I guess I am still confused by the fact that they don't ACT the same. They have a SIGNIFICANT difference in the amount of tax owed (which I'm still concerned about).

Level 15
Jun 11, 2019 10:03:18 AM

Neither one should change the tax owed at all.  Which one changes it?
Box 2b "taxable amount not determined" isn't checked is it?

You are not looking at the summary screen are you?  That will show the total *gross* amount of the box 1 amounts, not the taxable amount.   You must look at the 1040 form itself. line 16a for the gross amount and 16b for the taxable amount which should be zero (line 12a/b on a 1040A).

New Member
Jun 11, 2019 10:03:20 AM

I am looking at the "dynamic header" that changes as items are entered in TurboTax. With a distribution code G (on traditional 401k->Traditional IRA) it increases the Federal Tax Due amount. When I change it to the code H, the Federal Tax Due amount is reduced (and, i think, accurate).

Level 15
Jun 11, 2019 10:03:21 AM

Switch to the forms mode and see what in on the 1040 line 16 or 1040A form line 12.

When you go through the interview for the code G, are you answering NO to both the questions that ask about a Roth?  The default is a Traditional IRA.

Level 15
Jun 11, 2019 10:03:23 AM

Or 1040 line 16.  Line 16b should be zero and say ROLLOVER by it.

Level 15
Jun 11, 2019 10:03:25 AM

I meant to say 16 - typo - I corrected it.

If box 2a is zero and code G in box 7, the box 2b and IRA/SEP/SIMPLE boxes NOT checked and the two Roth questions answered NO then I know of no way that will be taxable.

 I suggest that you switch to the forms mode to delete the 1099-R form and then re-enter in the interview to make sure that something is not "stuck" on the form.

In the forms mode, select the 1099-R in the forms column and use the remove (delete) form button.

New Member
Jun 11, 2019 10:03:27 AM

Thanks to all for the suggestions. I will try them this afternoon.

Level 1
Mar 18, 2023 4:12:36 PM

Hey i am having the same issue.  if I add both G and H,  Turbotax reports over 100k rollover.    do you end up only reporting for 1099-R with code H only??  and don't import the 1099-r with code G? 

Thanks

 

Level 15
Mar 18, 2023 4:54:09 PM

If you received two Forms 1099-R, one with code G and one with code H, both must be reported.  Each of these is considered to be income, although the income reported on the code H is nontaxable income and box 2a of the code G Form 1099-R indicates the amount of that distribution is taxable income, with the difference between the box 1 and box 2a amounts being nontaxable income.