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posted Oct 17, 2019 11:38:53 AM

Retirement Payout - I know they will take out 20% Federal Taxes as well as State taxes but is there a way I can pay the additional 10% IRS tax ahead of filing my taxes?

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Level 15
Oct 17, 2019 11:49:35 AM

Why is there another 10%?  Are you under 59 1/2 and taking a distribution?  You can send in an estimated payment on form 1040ES or pay the estimate directly here 

https://www.irs.gov/payments

 

Even though you have withholding taken out or pay an estimate it is not actually the tax.  You will still enter the whole gross original amount (before taxes were withheld) with your other income to figure out the total tax (and it may put you into a higher tax bracket) and then the withholding is subtracted from the total tax to figure your refund or tax due. The gross amount shows up,on 1040 line 4a and the taxable amount on 4b.  The withholding will show up on 1040 line 16.

 

If you have a 10% Penalty....It has to break out and show the 10% penalty separately on your return, (Schedule 4 line 59 which goes to 1040 line 14)

Then you get credit for all the withholding taken out on 1040 line 16.

Level 15
Oct 17, 2019 12:05:33 PM

20% is the minimum mandatory withholding on a distribution like a pension buyout paid to you that is eligible for rollover.  You can request that the payer withhold more.  If the forms for requesting the distribution do not allow for requesting more, you can submit Form W-4P to the payer to request additional federal withholding:

 

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4p.pdf

 

If the distribution has already been made with only 20% withheld for federal taxes, you can make a federal estimated tax payment as suggested by VolvoGirl.  Similar things can be done with state withholding or estimated tax payments.

Level 15
Oct 17, 2019 12:12:40 PM

Are you going to roll it into another account like a IRA?  If you do then you need to replace the withholding with your own money or the withholding will become a taxable distribution itself.