Why sign in to the Community?

  • Submit a question
  • Check your notifications
Sign in to the Community or Sign in to TurboTax and start working on your taxes
Level 1
posted Jun 4, 2019 11:38:32 AM

I'm self employed. Every year, I contribute to SEP based on income taxes due or refund. This year, the SEP numbers are not changing my refund at all. What causes that?

0 4 1282
4 Replies
Intuit Alumni
Jun 4, 2019 11:38:33 AM

There could be a couple of reasons.

The first is that you may have no taxable income or any credits wiped out your federal tax. Second, the deduction will not affect any SE tax that you are paying. 

You could take a look at the numbers before the contribution and after and see if there is any difference on those lines on the 1040.

There is also an income limitation..

Changes to the 2017 SEP IRA limits

One of the most attractive things about SEP IRAs is that they have extremely high contribution limits. Employers can contribute up to a quarter of the salaries that each employee earns up to an annual maximum limit. For 2017, that maximum will be $54,000, up $1,000 from its 2016 level. That's the first rise in the SEP IRA limit since 2015, because inflation levels were so low last year that they didn't produce any increase in the figure for the 2016 tax year.

Note that the 25% limitation works a little differently for those who are self-employed. In that case, the 25% refers to the self-employed worker's net earnings from the business. To calculate that figure, you have to start by taking out the half of the self-employment tax, which represents the employer's portion of the payroll taxes that go toward Social Security and Medicare. Next, you have to account for the fact that the contribution to the SEP IRA reduces the taxable earnings from the business. The net result of that math is that the 25% limitation on net earnings works out to 20% of your adjusted profit after the self-employment tax adjustment.

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2016/12/03/2017-sep-ira-limits.aspx

Level 1
Jun 4, 2019 11:38:35 AM

Thank you, so essentially, with what I have input so far with income and expenses, maybe i have no "tax liability" at the moment and therefore it cannot deduct more from income?  I still have some income numbers to input soon so maybe it will change that?

Intuit Alumni
Jun 4, 2019 11:38:36 AM

It probably will.

Intuit Alumni
Jun 4, 2019 11:38:37 AM

It may, depending on how much.