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posted Jun 6, 2019 9:36:15 AM

How do I avoid paying additional tax for converting from Traditional to Roth IRA if rollover from pretax 401K to Tra IRA occurred after the conversion both in 2017?

Last year, I converted traditional to Roth IRA which resulted in a 0 balance on my traditional IRA account. I then did a rollover of my pre-tax 401K fund to Traditional IRA to keep things clean. 

For the conversion to Roth, I thought I only owe tax on capital gains since all my contribution to Traditional IRA was nondeductible. However for some reason, TurboTax is using some of the rollover amount to calculate the tax owed. The tax owe amount goes up whenever I enter the Dec 31 2017 Traditional IRA balance (which is the rollover amount). If I put in 0, then the correct tax amount owed is displayed.  How do I correct this or am I not doing this right? Thank you.

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Level 15
Jun 6, 2019 9:36:17 AM

Unfortunately, by rolling the 401(k) to a traditional IRA in the same year as you converted an amount only a bit more than your basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions, you've caused your conversion to be largely taxable.  There is nothing you can do now to reduce the taxable amount of the conversion (other than recharacterizing the conversion back to a traditional IRA, something that will not be possible for conversions done in 2018 and beyond due to the recent tax-law changes).  This is an mistake that many people make.

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Level 15
Jun 6, 2019 9:36:17 AM

Unfortunately, by rolling the 401(k) to a traditional IRA in the same year as you converted an amount only a bit more than your basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions, you've caused your conversion to be largely taxable.  There is nothing you can do now to reduce the taxable amount of the conversion (other than recharacterizing the conversion back to a traditional IRA, something that will not be possible for conversions done in 2018 and beyond due to the recent tax-law changes).  This is an mistake that many people make.

New Member
Jun 6, 2019 9:36:19 AM

Thank you for your response! I didn't understand the last part of your response about 2018...  Did you mean  the tax law will change in 2018 to prevent recharacterization/conversion mistake but I can still recharacterize the conversion I did last year now to reduce paying taxes, correct?

Level 15
Jun 6, 2019 9:36:20 AM

Correct.  The newly enacted tax law prevents Roth conversions performed in 2018 and beyond from being recharacterized.  Conversions (and taxable rollovers from a traditional qualified retirement plan to a Roth IRA) performed in 2017 are the last ones that are permitted to be recharacterized back to a traditional IRA.

Level 15
Jun 6, 2019 9:36:22 AM

If your intent is to get money into a Roth IRA for the long run, it may be more beneficial to keep the Roth conversion and pay the tax rather than to recharacterize.  The sooner you convert to Roth, the more tax-free growth you'll have rather than tax deferred growth.

New Member
Jun 6, 2019 9:36:23 AM

Thank you! You are awesome!! I learn a lot from all of your responses. Please keep up the good work, dmertz 🙂