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New Member
posted Jun 4, 2019 6:59:32 PM

Can I use the tax owed from an IRA withdrawl towards the Solar Panel credit?

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Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:34 PM

Residential Energy Credits can be applied to reduce your income taxes resulting from an IRA distribution, but cannot be applied to reduce any early-distribution penalty on an IRA distribution.

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Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:34 PM

Residential Energy Credits can be applied to reduce your income taxes resulting from an IRA distribution, but cannot be applied to reduce any early-distribution penalty on an IRA distribution.

New Member
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:35 PM

No there would be no penalty involved.  We do not have enough federal tax to offset the Credit unless we take a large hunk out of both of our IRA's.

Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:36 PM

Instead of taking money out of the IRAs, you can perform Roth conversions to incur the tax liability to which to apply the tax credit but keep the money in a retirement account.  Since you are over age 59½, you can take the converted amount (and any original contributions you may have made) from the Roth IRAs at any time tax and penalty free.  Distributions of any earnings on the investments while the money is in the Roth IRAs will also be tax free after 5 years from the beginning of the year for which you each first make a Roth IRA contribution or conversion.

New Member
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:38 PM

Thank you that helps greatly.  Would it be best to have my taxes done so we will see how much we have to convert to a Roth or just convert some now?

Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:39 PM

If your goal is to create an income tax liability that equals (or at least comes close to) your otherwise unused credits, it's best to prepare at least an estimated tax return.  That can be a bit tricky to do before year end, but it doesn't *have* to be done by year end.  You must make the distributions from the traditional IRAs by December 31, 2017 for the income to be taxable on your 2017 tax return, but you have 60 days to complete a Roth conversion or a rollover of the distribution.  You could potentially take distributions from the traditional IRAs a bit in excess of the amount that you need to convert, complete your actual tax return to determine the optimal amount to convert, complete the conversion of the optimal amount, then roll the remainder back into the traditional IRA, all before the end of the 60-day window.  This is a bit riskier than just doing the conversions outright because you can potentially get tripped up by the one-rollover-per-12-months rule (per individual) on the rollover of the remainder back to the traditional IRAs.

Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:41 PM

"No there would be no penalty involved."  So you are over age 59.5?  Are you taking a Required Minimum Distribution?

Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:42 PM

Good point, any RMD for an IRA must be satisfied before any other, additional amounts are converted to Roth.  Age is otherwise not a factor when doing a Roth conversion.  An RMD cannot be converted to Roth.

Don't forget about any state income taxes that might be due on an IRA distribution or Roth conversion.

New Member
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:43 PM

Yes and I just moved to a state that has income tax, bummer.

New Member
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:44 PM

Yes and I just moved to a state that has income tax, bummer.

New Member
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:46 PM

SweetieJean  no we are not at a point where we have to take out of our IRA's.  We are 64 and 67.

Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:47 PM

Is the 67 year old getting Medicare?  Be aware that any large increase in your income can raise your Medicare premiums 2 years down the road.
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10536.pdf">https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10536.pdf</a>

New Member
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:48 PM

Even if we roll it into a Roth but just used to Federal Tax to offset our Solar credit?

Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:50 PM

Yes, because doing the Roth conversion is taxable.

Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:51 PM

Yes, Medicare IRMAA is based on AGI.

Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:52 PM

A lot of folks are caught by surprise by this.

Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:54 PM

If you are receiving Social Security income of which 85% is not already taxed, the additional IRA income can also increase the amount of Social Security income that is taxable.

Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:55 PM

Which state do you live in?

New Member
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:57 PM

Massachusetts

New Member
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:58 PM

I am thinking of trying to do the tax credit over 2 years.  We will pull from my IRA to convert to a Roth, I am 64

Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 6:59:59 PM
Level 15
Jun 4, 2019 7:00:01 PM

You might consider doing smaller Roth conversions over a number of years and carrying the credit forward to be applied in later years.

New Member
Jun 4, 2019 7:00:02 PM

Yes there credit is 1,000.  And yes I think I will spread it out over 2 if not 3 years.

New Member
Jun 4, 2019 7:00:04 PM

Thank you your help worked.  I got with my Accountant and withdrew enough funds from my IRA to generate enough Federal Tax.  I ended up putting most into a Roth account and the rest to pay for the solar panels.  I might of withdrew a little too much and will be owing Uncle Sam.

New Member
Jun 7, 2021 12:31:22 PM

I have a traditional IRA, not a ROTH.  I am considering installing solar panels in my home and need information on how to reduce my tax obligations.  I am 66 years old and retired while taking social security. Should I convert funds to a ROTH since the solar tax credit can be taken when I disburse funds from my retirement account? As you can see, I am somewhat confused. Sorry.