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New Member
posted May 31, 2019 4:51:19 PM

Forex gains and losses?

A quick question. 

I trade spot forex through forex.com.  I have some losses and I would like to to know how do I file these losses on turbo tax.    I printed out my trading transaction history for during 2014, and on the transaction, it reported a loss for the year.    I spoke to a cpa through turbo tax and he said that they wouldn't question if I filed my gains or losses through Box B(short term), under Scheduled D.  

Here is my questions.

#1-I would like to clarify if its proper for me to continue to  file these gains/losses under schedule D since I was never sent a 1099-b form, rather a printout from  the forex.com website?  

#2- is trading spot currency through forex.com, or fxcm considered a foreign currency futures "contract" ?

#3-I've read over time that i should enter gains or losses under section 988.  Am I still entitled to utilize capital loss carry over? 

I just like to officially know how to file it properly on turbo tax.

Any help is much appreciated. 

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Alumni
May 31, 2019 4:51:19 PM

Spot FOREX Trade Taxes

By default, retail FOREX traders fall under Section 988, which covers short-term foreign exchange contracts like spot FOREX trades. Section 988 taxes FOREX gains and losses like ordinary income, which is at a higher rate than the capital gains tax for most earners. An advantage of Section 988 treatment is that any amount of ordinary income can be deducted as a loss, where only $3,000 in capital gains losses can be deducted. Section 988 gains or losses are reported on Form 6781.

Report the gains/losses in this way:

Federal taxes - Wages & income - I'll choose what I work on - Less common income - Misc income 1099-A 1099-C - Other reportable income

This default treatment of foreign currency gains is to treat it as ordinary income.

"Except as otherwise provided in this section, any foreign currency gain or loss attributable to a section 988 transaction shall be computed separately and treated as ordinary income or loss (as the case may be)."

I've included a link to the Internal Revenue Code for your reference:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/988

Expert Alumni
Jan 27, 2020 1:43:14 PM

To report forex trading under Section 988, then you can import the data from your broker directly with a program such as GainsKeeper. or enter the information manually into TurboTax as Miscellaneous Income:

 

  • Click Federal Taxes -> Wages & Income and scroll down to Less Common Income
  • Go to the last selection, Miscellaneous Income and click Start
  • Go to the last option, Other reportable income and click Start
  • When it asks, "Any other reportable income?" say yes and then type in a description and the amount to report it on your tax return. 

Be sure to indicate in the description that this is a total of your Forex trades and enter an amount for either a gain or a loss. If you lost money, report it with a negative number. For an example if you lost $12,000, enter this as -$12,000. Be sure to keep your documentation regarding the forex trades if the IRS requests proof.

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Alumni
May 31, 2019 4:51:19 PM

Spot FOREX Trade Taxes

By default, retail FOREX traders fall under Section 988, which covers short-term foreign exchange contracts like spot FOREX trades. Section 988 taxes FOREX gains and losses like ordinary income, which is at a higher rate than the capital gains tax for most earners. An advantage of Section 988 treatment is that any amount of ordinary income can be deducted as a loss, where only $3,000 in capital gains losses can be deducted. Section 988 gains or losses are reported on Form 6781.

Report the gains/losses in this way:

Federal taxes - Wages & income - I'll choose what I work on - Less common income - Misc income 1099-A 1099-C - Other reportable income

This default treatment of foreign currency gains is to treat it as ordinary income.

"Except as otherwise provided in this section, any foreign currency gain or loss attributable to a section 988 transaction shall be computed separately and treated as ordinary income or loss (as the case may be)."

I've included a link to the Internal Revenue Code for your reference:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/988

New Member
May 31, 2019 4:51:21 PM

You don't show where to enter the loss, only that it is a loss. We know that

New Member
May 31, 2019 4:51:23 PM

thank you very much for your input.  My other question is, instead of  filing with section 988, am I able to file retail forex gains/losses under 1256?  thank you.

New Member
May 31, 2019 4:51:26 PM
Level 1
May 31, 2019 4:51:26 PM

What about section 1256 or Form 4989 - Schedule D?

Level 1
Jan 27, 2020 6:16:45 AM

Exactly how do I report FOREX trades in TurboTax Premium?

Expert Alumni
Jan 27, 2020 1:43:14 PM

To report forex trading under Section 988, then you can import the data from your broker directly with a program such as GainsKeeper. or enter the information manually into TurboTax as Miscellaneous Income:

 

  • Click Federal Taxes -> Wages & Income and scroll down to Less Common Income
  • Go to the last selection, Miscellaneous Income and click Start
  • Go to the last option, Other reportable income and click Start
  • When it asks, "Any other reportable income?" say yes and then type in a description and the amount to report it on your tax return. 

Be sure to indicate in the description that this is a total of your Forex trades and enter an amount for either a gain or a loss. If you lost money, report it with a negative number. For an example if you lost $12,000, enter this as -$12,000. Be sure to keep your documentation regarding the forex trades if the IRS requests proof.

New Member
Feb 20, 2020 11:33:47 AM

If I also have future contract losses can I claim them in this section with forex?

 

Thank you.

Level 2
Feb 21, 2021 8:48:46 PM

Hi

       For reporting retail forex trading(spot) LOSS/GAIN . Are you saying I have  a choice either use sec988 or form 6781 ?

 

 

thanks for your assistance.

 

Huy

Level 1
Feb 23, 2021 12:35:35 PM

Hi did you ever find out if you can utilize carry forward losses if you used 988?  ty

Level 2
Feb 23, 2021 1:51:38 PM

I would not use 988  to carry forwarding loss.,  988 is income not investment.  

Expert Alumni
Feb 23, 2021 2:23:39 PM

Let me clear up some misconceptions as I read  these various posts. Section 988 trading gains or losses are ordinary gains and losses and is not treated like investment income thus is not reported on a schedule D. As a result, there are no carryovers to offset future income.

 

Please read this link posted by Turbo Tax Expert DaveF1006 for details how to report the income. I know it is already listed above but  I thought i would post it here also. it is very important to note that this is ordinary and not investment income.

 

Level 1
Feb 23, 2021 6:36:00 PM

ty   

Level 2
Jan 14, 2022 10:30:45 PM

Greeting:

 

      I understand the forex reporting as ordinary income in MISC INCOME section.  From this message board someone said to also fill out the form 6781 which is CONTRACT & STRADDLES  .  So I am confuse because I dont deal with trading futures contract?

 

 

thanks for your help.

Level 15
Jan 14, 2022 11:31:46 PM

it depends

hopefully, this thread will provide the info you need.

not clear what you're trading but the trades could fall under section 988 (ordinary) or section 1256 (capital) depending on the choices you make and where and how traded.

 

https://www.thetaxadviser.com/issues/2009/nov/treatmentofforeigncurrencyoptiongains.html 

 

notice the requirements to have a qualifying section 988 {IRC sec 988(a)(1)(B)} transaction treated, at your option, as a 1256 transaction. 1256 transactions get treated as 60% long-term capital and 40% short-term capital

 

1256 gets entered under contracts and straddles form 6781 .

 

 

Alumni
Jan 15, 2022 5:59:54 AM

For tax purposes, forex options and futures contracts are considered IRC Section 1256 contracts, which are subject to a 60/40 tax consideration. In other words, 60% of gains or losses are counted as long-term capital gains or losses, and the remaining 40% is counted as short term. But I understand that you're not trading futures or options. 

Most spot traders are taxed according to IRC Section 988 contracts, which are for foreign exchange transactions settled within two days, making them open to treatment as ordinary losses and gains. If you trade spot forex, you will likely be grouped in this category as a "988 trader." If you experience net losses through your year-end trading, being categorized as a "988 trader" is a substantial benefit. As in the 1,256 contract category, you can count all of your losses as "ordinary losses," not just the first $3,000.

 

Now comes the tricky part: Deciding how to file taxes for your situation. While options or futures and OTC are grouped separately, the investor can choose to trade as either 1256 or 988. Individuals must decide which to use by the first day of the calendar year.

 

Form 6781 is used to report: 

  • Any gain or loss on section 1256 contracts under the mark-to-market rules. 
  • Gains and losses under section 1092 from straddle positions.

Therefor whether or not you need this form depends on the whether you decided to file as a 988 or 1256 trader. 

 

New Member
Aug 17, 2022 5:42:45 PM

I read your comment on how to report 988 income/loss and wanted to make sure that you are saying it's okay to report a loss in the same manner.  thanks

 

Calvin 

Alumni
Aug 18, 2022 6:41:10 AM

Before you enter your foreign currency transactions, you must determine whether the gain or (loss) is subject to IRC (Internal Revenue

Yes, you report and gain or a loss in the same manner.

 

Code) 1256 or 988. If you are unsure how to classify your trades, it is best to seek professional tax advice from your broker or a tax attorney.

By default, Cash Forex is subject to IRC 988 rules with ordinary gain or (loss) treatment. However, if you are a trader, you can elect out of IRC 988. This will allow your gains to be treated as IRC 1256 with beneficial 60/40 capital gain treatment. The election out of IRC 988 is an internal election. This means you should document the election in your own records before you make the trades.

IRC 988:

If you did NOT elect out of IRC 988, the gain or (loss) would be subject to IRC 988. You would enter the information on Schedule 1 (Form 1040) Additional Income and Adjustments to Income, Line 8 as an ordinary gain or (loss).

To enter a description and an amount for Schedule 1 (Form 1040), Line 8:

Level 3
Oct 4, 2022 6:50:06 AM

Reading Code Section 988, it seems as if "spot FX" trades; e.g. selling GBP for USD is only a Section 988 Transaction, if didn't have GBP in your account to sell and you were borrowing the GBP (with the obligation to repay it). Conversion of GBP owned in your account to USD it seems would not constitute a Section 988 Transaction and would be a Capital Gain/(Loss). Do you agree?

 

See definition of Section 988 Transaction in link below. It refers (i) acquition of debt, (ii) accruing expense/income to be paid/received later, or (iii) forward, future or option contract. All these have the feature of some kind of settlement in the future, not conversion of currency.

 

I am far from knowledgeable in tax law, so genuinely seeking guidance. Appreciate any views...

Level 15
Oct 5, 2022 9:40:06 AM

@samzandt 

 

You can elect to have FOREX and currency transactions to be treated under Section 1256.
How to do it.
Write yourself a letter documenting your intention signed and dated before you start trading,
and put with your tax records.
Then you can report FOREX on Form 6781.
Otherwise your Forex trades are ordinary income.


If you report a huge FOREX loss on the "Other Income" line, I think you can expect to be audited.

 

 

Level 3
Oct 5, 2022 1:20:55 PM

I have a rather large FOREX loss which I would like to classify as Section 988 which would go under Other Income. If this is the requirement why would I get audited?

Level 3
Oct 6, 2022 8:35:43 AM

I'm not a FOREX Trader, just retail guy that was compensated in stock denominated in GBP. I subsequently sold the stock and received GBP. I held the GBP for over 1 year and through broker (Interactive Broker) sold GBP for USD on the spot market for a loss (using the basis determined by GBP/USD at time of stock sale). Is this still consider a Section 988 Transaction, in which I can show a loss in Other Income or do I have to report as a capital gain/(loss) which would be limited to loss of $3,000? I can't find this particular transaction in the definition of Section 988 Transaction. The definition of Disposition, in the definition that says "disposition of any nonfunctional currency" is a Section 988 Transaction, is very complicated and refers to stock, but it is impossible to decipher. Any advice? 

Thank you!

New Member
Apr 17, 2023 6:38:58 PM

I am at a loss for 2022, deducting the loss very help with my taxable income, as it does reduced my taxes. But I have a question that seem I cannot find an answer to. 

 

Do I report the loss on Federal and State (CA) in where I live? or only FED side?

Expert Alumni
Apr 18, 2023 8:10:28 AM

If you report this transaction on your federal return the system will carry the necessary information over to your California return automatically.

 

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