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posted Feb 14, 2024 4:11:36 PM

Do I need to file 1041 if no tax is due?

Sold father's personal residence during probate, all proceeds distributed to beneficiaries. We got a late 1099-S form for the sale, and due to stepped-up basis there's only about 5K in long term gains. There was no other income and no tax seems to be due. 

1. Do I still need to file the return, even if calculations show no tax due?

2. Do I need to send K-1 forms to beneficiaries even if the distribution isn't taxable? 

 

One IRS publication said we need to file if we get a 1099-S, which makes me think I need to file even if no tax is due, but I'm not sure what to do about K-1s.

 

Thanks in advance

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Expert Alumni
Feb 14, 2024 4:22:22 PM

Yes, if what you determine the gain to be is correct, and regardless of any tax due.  If there is any income within the estate for the tax year that is  $600 or more, a Form 1041 must be filed.

 

Yes assuming the estate received the proceeds and then distributed the gain to them, each beneficiary needs the K-1 if there is income distributed to them.

 

The distributable net income may indicate there is no tax however if there truly was a gain, it will be distributed to the beneficiaries. 

 

You definitely have a stepped up basis due to inheritance, and it seems you understand that, however you also say there is a gain in excess of the filing requirement.  

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Expert Alumni
Feb 14, 2024 4:22:22 PM

Yes, if what you determine the gain to be is correct, and regardless of any tax due.  If there is any income within the estate for the tax year that is  $600 or more, a Form 1041 must be filed.

 

Yes assuming the estate received the proceeds and then distributed the gain to them, each beneficiary needs the K-1 if there is income distributed to them.

 

The distributable net income may indicate there is no tax however if there truly was a gain, it will be distributed to the beneficiaries. 

 

You definitely have a stepped up basis due to inheritance, and it seems you understand that, however you also say there is a gain in excess of the filing requirement.  

Level 3
Feb 14, 2024 5:54:51 PM

So on Form 8949 ... describing the sale of the house which generated all the capital gains  ... is "date acquired" (Part II column b) the date he originally acquired the house  )from the point of view of the individual) or do I use his date of death (from the point of view of the estate)? 

Expert Alumni
Feb 14, 2024 7:01:53 PM

You would use the date of death at the date acquired, as that is the day the trust acquired it. Any gain should be considered long term capital gain even if the property was not not held for more than a year by the estate.