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Returning Member
posted Apr 26, 2024 7:27:59 PM

Earned income on excess HSA

My HSA banker is refusing to calculated earned income on my excess HSA contribution. I understand that the following equation is used to determine this amount:

Net Income = Contribution × ( Adjusted Closing Balance − Adjusted Opening Balance ) / Adjusted Opening Balance

I overcontributed $4,000 to HSA in 2023.

 

I am having difficulty determining what is mean by the account closing balance (ACB) and account opening balance (AOB).

 

1. Is AOB the total investment balance (all money located in investment accounts) for the month when overpayment started + $4,000?

 

2. For ACB, I assume this is the total amount located in investment accounts at the end of the year

 

3. Do I need to include distribution for qualified health accounts anywhere? I obviously paid taxes for those with the $4000 overpayment and I assume they don't need to be incorporated because it's not sitting in an investment account.

 

For example,

Excess contribution: $4,000

ACB: 10,000

AOB: 7,000+4,000

 

So my total to withdraw for excess earnings would be $-363

4000 [(10,000-11,000)/11,000]

 

4. It doesn't make sense that the balance is negative, unless I'm losing money to the HSA investments, correct? According to my HSA investment site, I made a total of $600 during this period.

 

5. How should I report a negative earning, when I've already requested the 4,000 from my HSA? Do I fill out the form to transfer 363 into my account from my bank, or make an extra contribution to my HSA? 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/1.408-11https://www.investopedia.com/net-income-attributable-definition-5223368

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3 Replies
Level 15
Apr 26, 2024 11:07:01 PM

The custodian according to IRS is supposed to calculate the earnings

 

 

worksheet

https://www.connexuscu.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/HSA-Earnings-Calculation-Worksheet.pdf 

 

 

also from CFR 1.408-11

while this refers to IRAs the same rules apply to an HSA

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/1.408-11 

 

if you have multiple investment accounts for the HSA it's the total value of the accounts on the same date.

 

 

Returning Member
Apr 27, 2024 5:04:34 AM

Is there an irs code that I can give the hsa banker, to support that the irs expects them to provide this information? 

Employee Tax Expert
Apr 29, 2024 1:13:11 PM

One thing to remember is that the custodian will have to issue Form 1098-SA to you to show the distribution. Earnings on Excess will have to go to box 2. How are they going to come up with that amount if they don't calculate it? They might not want to do preliminary calculations for you but eventually, they will have to.