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posted Jun 6, 2021 11:51:53 AM

CA state Form 3853 - Health Coverage Exemption: No ECN entry error

Turbotax informed me that my CA state return needs fixing in order to e-file.

So I chose ‘Fix CA Return”

 

1. The “Check This Entry” screen says “Form 3853 - Health Coverage Exemption: Exemption Certificate Number must be entered since you have selected an exemption.......”

Since I don’t have ECN, I entered “No ECN”.

 

2.“Check This Entry” screen says “Form 3853 - Health Coverage Exemption: Exemption Certificate Number or No or Pending ECN should be entered but not both.”

I erased the previous entry “No ECN” in (1), since “No ECN” is already selected from the drop down menu.

The screen goes back to (1), which says “Form 3853 - Health Coverage Exemption: Exemption Certificate Number must be entered since you have selected an exemption.......”

 

I seem to be caught in an infinite loop, and believe that this is an error in the Turbotax program.

Please advise how I would be able to fix this, so I may e-file?

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16 Replies
New Member
Jul 8, 2021 12:30:35 AM

I am in the same loop for the CA health coverage exemption.  Trying to efile also.  Following for a fix.

Level 1
Feb 17, 2022 8:02:21 PM

Also having the same issue.  Looking for support.

Intuit Alumni
Feb 23, 2022 3:40:30 PM

Are you still experiencing this issue?

@Immmcruz

New Member
Mar 13, 2022 11:48:32 PM

I have this issue and have paused filing my state tax because of it. I selected "No ECN" and so I shouldn't have to enter it...

Level 1
Apr 5, 2022 7:22:36 PM

I am stuck in the same loop and need help!!!

Level 2
Apr 12, 2022 10:50:57 AM

anyone find a resolution to this?  I've tried every combination I can think of - and it just keeps kicking me out of eFile.

Level 1
Apr 14, 2022 8:41:17 PM

I am having the same issue  trying to file now 4./14/22 anything no problem taking your payment though?

Level 1
Apr 15, 2022 7:27:53 AM

help

Level 2
Apr 15, 2022 8:55:31 AM

I'm a California filer and was trying to resolve the "No ECN" error when I was eFiling.

 

Open your return and navigate to the following section.

 

State Taxes -> Continue -> Edit -> Credits and Taxes -> Health Insurance Penalty -> Revisit

 

Q. Did you all have insurance coverage in 2021?
A.

"None of us had it at any point" << this was my selection >>

 

If you answered like this to the question about insurance and clicked continue, then the next screen is very important and related to the error during eFile. It's not a TurboTax bug per se, it's in how the state prepared the forms and it's easy to miss some important clarifying text on the TurboTax screen.

 

Click

<CONTINUE>

once you've answered the "Did you all have insurance coverage in 2021?"

 

The 4 groups of checkboxes on the next screen are important and related to the issue.

If you checked ANY of the boxes in the 2nd group ("Exemptions granted by the Marketplace (Requires an Exemption Certificate Number)" - you will have this issue. I had incorrectly checked the "

Coverage was considered unaffordable

" which was the issue. I removed this checkbox and continued through the rest of the sections and after TurboTax performed the required calculation, I was still eligible for a waiver to eliminate the "Shared Responsibility Payment" and I was also able to eFile with the "No ECN" selection in my 3853.

 

This is not tax advice - this was my solution to the problem that so many seem to be struggling with.

 

Good Luck

Level 2
Apr 15, 2022 8:56:53 AM

see my comment below yours - maybe it will help.  Good luck!

New Member
Apr 16, 2022 9:54:18 AM

Thank you SO MUCH!

New Member
Apr 20, 2022 5:14:12 PM

I have no number for the form 3853 so it won’t let me efile.  It already took my money for the fee.  How do I efile?

Level 2
Apr 20, 2022 11:19:31 PM

Hi Mathisenrob,

 

If your problem was the same as mine (cannot eFile) - then you need to review the following section of your State Return.

 

Follow these clicks within Turbo Tax and check to make sure you didn't accidentally click the boxes that require an ECN.

 

State Taxes -> Continue -> Edit -> Credits and Taxes -> Health Insurance Penalty -> Revisit

 

In my case, my return was complete and when I attempted to transmit the return, Turbo Tax stopped me and said something to effect of "We have to ask you one more thing...." and it took me back to the 3853 "No ECN" problem and acted like I MUST enter an ECN even though I chose the "No ECN" option from the drop-down.

 

The reason Turbo Tax was doing this, was because I had checked a box in during the "Health Insurance Penalty Q&A" that resulted in the choice "No ECN" being problematic.  I had to remove the check from the box with the following title: "

Coverage was considered unaffordable

" which was in the 2nd group on this screen and it was the cause of the failure on attempt to eFile.  I removed that check and let Turbo Tax perform the calculation again and my penalty was waived.

 

Best of luck!

 

Level 1
Apr 23, 2022 4:30:10 PM

Although the instructions state select all hardships which apply, only 1 selection is necessary. Simply select plan unaffordable (i.e., code M) in order to get rid of the error. 

New Member
Mar 13, 2023 8:46:11 PM

i have whats called Mdei-Share, i was told that is does qualify under the affordable care act, but because its not technically insurance i get an exemption letter not a 1095 form, but it has no exemption number. how do i file this without fined? and if i get the ECN where do i put it? please help me

Expert Alumni
Mar 14, 2023 8:26:43 AM

Since you're in California and this is for your California return, you'll get your ECN from Covered California, the California healthcare marketplace.

In California, ECN stands for Exemption Certificate Number.

 

You can also try to chat with them using the link below.  They are the only entity that will be able to assist you.

 

Contacting Covered CA options

 

 

@Rancehl