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New Member
posted Mar 5, 2020 9:13:19 AM

when i enter ira value why does it increase tax due calculation

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Level 15
Jan 29, 2024 4:40:52 PM

The amount in box 2a of a Form 1099-R reporting a regular distribution from an IRA is meaningless, indicated by box 2b Taxable amount not determined being marked.  For a traditional IRA distribution, if you have indicated that there is no basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions, TurboTax knows that the amount in box 1 is to be used as the taxable amount.  If you have indicated that you do have basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions, TurboTax knows to determine the taxable amount by preparing Form 1099-R Part I using the amount in box 1, the amount of your basis and the year-end value in your traditional IRAs.

 

Review the Form 8606 prepared by TurboTax to see the calculation of the taxable amount.

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Employee Tax Expert
Mar 5, 2020 10:01:09 AM

A Traditional IRA distribution generally includes a taxable portion which will increase the Federal tax balance due.  If the 1099-R does not withhold sufficient Federal withholding tax, your net refund will be reduced or income tax balance increased.

 

If you received a Traditional IRA distribution and it is reported on IRS form 1099-R, it will be entered into the TurboTax software as an income item.

 

 Box 1 lists the gross distribution.  Box 2a lists the taxable amount of the gross distribution.

 

If box 2b taxable amount not determined is checked, you may have to compute the taxable portion of the gross distribution.

 

 

Level 15
Mar 5, 2020 10:14:06 AM

When you have basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions, the year-end value of your traditional IRAs is necessary to accurately prepare Form 8606 to determine the taxable amount of a traditional IRA distribution.  Until the value is entered, TurboTax assumes a $0 year end value and the calculation produces an inaccurately low taxable amount.

 

The year-end value in traditional IRAs is also needed if you have an excess contribution in your traditional IRAs.  The 10% penalty is calculated on the amount of the excess or on your year-end balance, whichever is less.

Returning Member
Jan 29, 2024 4:10:14 PM

I also had the same experience, but I have a taxable amount in Box 2a.  The program just seems to ignore it.  I have after-tax contributions to be reconciled and that value was entered.  The amount the tax increased doesn't jive with the idea that the value of the IRA was assumed to be $0 before I entered it.

Level 15
Jan 29, 2024 4:40:52 PM

The amount in box 2a of a Form 1099-R reporting a regular distribution from an IRA is meaningless, indicated by box 2b Taxable amount not determined being marked.  For a traditional IRA distribution, if you have indicated that there is no basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions, TurboTax knows that the amount in box 1 is to be used as the taxable amount.  If you have indicated that you do have basis in nondeductible traditional IRA contributions, TurboTax knows to determine the taxable amount by preparing Form 1099-R Part I using the amount in box 1, the amount of your basis and the year-end value in your traditional IRAs.

 

Review the Form 8606 prepared by TurboTax to see the calculation of the taxable amount.

New Member
Feb 16, 2026 3:10:34 PM

If the gross distribution in box 1 and 2-a are the same amount, and I have non-deductible contributions why wouldn't the tax computation be reduced instead of increased? (Tradirional IRA)

Wouldn't the original tax computation by Turbo-tax be based on the higher number to begin with, and reduced when the small amount of non-deductibe contributions is applied? What happens appears to be contrary to commn sense and logic in addition to math itself.

Employee Tax Expert
Feb 16, 2026 5:16:08 PM

To report a distribution of nondeductible IRA contributions in TurboTax, enter your Form 1099-R, then ensure you accurately report your prior-year "basis" (total nondeductible contributions) by answering "Yes" to questions about nondeductible contributions. TurboTax will use this data to populate IRS Form 8606, which calculates the taxable and non-taxable portions of your distribution. 

 

You will need your Form 8606 to report your IRA basis.  If all or part of your Box 1 amount is non-taxable,  Box 2b 'taxable amount not determined' should be checked. 

 

Here's more info on reporting Non-Deductible IRA Contributions. 

 

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