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Level 2
posted Mar 7, 2023 2:24:46 PM

1099Q

Do I need to include all the gain just as it is on 1099Q? When Turbo Tax asks for Box 1 tuition, do I need to put in the amount on the 1098T form or can I just put in the actual tuition for Fall 2022? The school's detailed billing seems to indicate that they counted tuition, housing, and meal plan for Fall 2022 from the 529 in that Box 1 number.  Where on dependent's return do I enter other college expenses?  Thanks

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Expert Alumni
Mar 7, 2023 3:15:40 PM

1. Not if spent on qualified expenses.

2. Enter the 1098T as received. However. you may want/ need to enter other expenses.

3. Box 1 tuition on the 1098-T does not include room and board which are eligible expenses for the 1099-Q.

4. A dependent can't claim education credits but could claim additional income. If the 1099-Q actually covers more than all of your qualified expenses, then it will need to be entered. See who enters it here. The rules sound simple, the person who receives the funds and whose Social Security number is on the form is the one to report the 1099-Q on their tax return, if necessary.

 

Please see another post of mine here for more details of the 1099-Q exceeding college tuition. Also, see Pub 970 for more information on the AOTC credit. 

 

For 2022, the income phaseout for education credit is $80,000-$90,000 or for MFJ $160,000-$180,000. A credit on your return and not entering the 1099-Q are the top goals.

Level 15
Mar 7, 2023 5:21:15 PM

Q. Do I need to include all the gain just as it is on 1099Q? 

A.  No.

 

Q. When Turbo Tax asks for Box 1 tuition, do I need to put in the amount on the 1098T form or can I just put in the actual tuition for Fall 2022?

A. TurboTax will present screens and boxes so that you can enter expenses by type. 

 

Q Where on dependent's return do I enter other college expenses?  

A. Nowhere on the actual tax forms. You enter expenses in the interview. TurboTax puts them on worksheets and calculates the taxable amount of the 1099-Q "earnings" (gain) and puts that on line 8z of Schedule 1. 

 

But, before you start entering information, it pays to have a handle on what to expect. It may not be necessary to enter anything. 

 

You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. You also cannot count expenses that were paid by tax free scholarships. You cannot double dip! 

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

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Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings.