dmertz
Level 15

Retirement tax questions

"I could empty the account before years end but roth converting it would've taken until the next year,"

 

Whether the conversion is done directly or indirectly, the timing of a Roth conversion is based on when the distribution from the traditional IRA occurs.  Even if not deposited until early 2026, depositing the $1030.61 into a Roth IRA within 60 days of the date of the distribution would have resulted in it being a Roth conversion reportable on the 2025 tax return.

 

"shouldn't I have to pay more?"

 

No, you shouldn't pay more.  Only the taxable portion of an early-distribution is subject to penalty.

 

Note that after applying $899 of basis to the $1030.61 distribution, $6,101 of basis remains to apply to the conversion of the $7,000.  The result is that the taxable amount of the Roth conversion of the $7,000 is $899.  A Roth conversion is not subject to an early-distribution penalty, so that $899 taxable portion of the Roth conversion is not subject to penalty.