Retirement tax questions

@marcschare - NIIT is 3.8% tax on the unearned incomes that exceeds $200,000.  social security is NOT multipled by the 3.8%, but it can "push" unearned income above $200,000.

 

Let's use an example.  Iet's say (and I am exaggerating to prove the point) that I have $160,000 of social security gross income (this is 85% of what I received for the year) and I have $40,000 of dividends and that is all!  

 

The NIIT tax is zero - becase my MAGI is $200,000 less $200,000 as the thresshold so that is zero.

 

Now, let's say, the social security income is at $170,000 and the dividends remain at $40,000.

 

THe NIIT tax is the lessor of: 

 

$40,000 (my unearned income)

or 

$210,000 (MAGI) - $200,000 (Thresshold) = $10,000

 

So NIIT is $10,000*3.8%.  or $380. 

 

Yes, social security income is part of MAGI and it can "push" more of the unearned income beyond $200,000, but the 3.8% is never multipled by social security.

 

One more similar example: my social socurity income is $210,000 and my dividends are STILL $40,000

 

The NIIT tax is the lessor of: 

 

$40,000 (my unearned income)

or 

$250,000 (MAGI) - $200,000 (Thresshold) = $50,000

 

So NIIT is $40,000*3.8%.  or $1520.

 

and no matter how much higher my social secuity goes, NIIT will still be $1520. 

 

taht is because Social Security income is not part of NIIT ðŸ˜€