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Retirement tax questions
@Wyldaisy wrote:
Thank you, the link helps. I need to revisit the 1099-R sections as well as the part that generated the 8606. But for clarification, since these are back door Roth IRAs that are not deductible (i.e. income limitations, etc.), for my question below from the 2020 Turbo Tax season (how I answered this question last year:(
- "Any non-deductible Contributions to your IRA? Let us know if you made and kept track of any non-deductible contributions to your traditional IRA from 2019 or prior years." - Answered NO (Prior to 2020, I had no IRAs)
Will the question on the 2021 turbo tax form say "Any non-deductible Contributions to your IRA? Let us know if you made and kept track of any non-deductible contributions to your traditional IRA from 2020 or prior years."
And if so, should I answer YES in this case? Am I tracking my 2020 non-deductible contribution to my IRA (traditional that was immediately converted to a Roth). And if the answer is YES, would it be the $7,000 that was contributed and converted in March 2021 for tax year 2020?
I also did another contribution and conversion (same day) for calendar 2021 in March 2021. Still processing how to enter this and may have follow questions for this?
You should have entered the 2020 contribution in the IRA contribution interview wand mqd shre that it was non-deductible so that you would have a 2020 8606 form with the non deductible amount on line 14 that you will need when enterint the 2021 1099-R for the "Backdoor Roth".
| The "Backdoor Roth" does not exist in tax law. It is a procedure used by some to take advantage of a quirk in tax law that allows making a non-deductible contribution to a Traditional IRA when one cannot contribute to a Roth IRA, and the immediately converting the Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA, thereby getting the money into the Roth via "backdoor" tax free. [Congress has been talking about changing the tax law to prohibit this but has not yet done so.] That "procedure" can only work of all these requirements are met: 1) No Traditional IRA account whatsoever can exist (that includes any SEP or SIMPLE IRA accounts) at the start. If existing IRA's contain any before-tax money or earnings then it will be partly taxable. 2) The Tradition IRA contributions must be reported on a 8606 form as non-deductible. 3) The conversion to a ROTH must be shortly after the contribution to avoid taxable gains. 4) The entire Traditional IRA value must be zero that the end of the year of conversion. Otherwise the conversion will be partly taxable. First you must enter your Traditional IRA contributions (if there were 2021 contributions). IRA contribution Federal Taxes, Deductions & Credits, I’ll choose what I work on (if that screen comes up),, Retirement & Investments, Traditional & Roth IRA contribution. Be SURE to answer the follow up that the are choosing to make this contribution NON-DEDUCTIBLE - if that screen comes up. (DO NOT say that you moved (recharacterized) the money to a Roth) – this is a conversion, not a recharactorazition. Then enter the 1099-R that shows the distribution. Federal Taxes, Wages & Income I’ll choose what I work on (if that screen comes up),, Retirement Plans & Social Security, IRA, 401(k), Pension Plan Withdrawals (1099-R). Answer the follow-up questions answer the question that you moved the money to another retirement. The screen will open up with choices of where it was moved. Choose you converted it to Roth IRA. When asked if you have made any non-deductible contributions say " "yes" if you did then enter the non-deductible contributions made for tax years before 2021. (Usually zero unless you also made a 2020 or earlier non-deductible contribution. If you do have prior year basis then enter the last filed 8606 line 14 value.). Enter the 2021 year end value of your Traditional IRA a "0" (zero) - if it is in fact zero - this tax free Roth conversion will not work if it is not zero. [If you had any other Traditional IRA at the end of 2021, then the nondeductible "basis" must be pro-rated over the current distribution and the total IRA value and only a portion of the Roth conversion will be non taxable and part will be taxable, with the remaining non-deductible basis carrying forward for future distributions. You can never only withdrew the nondeductible basis as long as the IRA exists and has a value more than zero.] The non-deductible amount of your contribution will be subtracted from the taxable amount of the conversion on then 8606 form and enter on line 4a of them 1040 form and a zero taxable amount on line 4b if you did it right. Also see this TurboTax FAQ: https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/4350747-how-do-i-enter-a-backdoor-roth-ira-conversion |
